The Dayton Thread...

[billyjack]

All things related to the Dayton Flyers program can be posted here.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Moths to a flame...

[Hoya Hoya Hoya]

Can this also include VCU,WSU,Goznaga?

[xusandy]

Well, I wouldn't post Gonzaga thoughts here, since unlike Dayton, VCU, and Wichita, there's actually a chance (albeit a small one) that the Zags will eventually wind up in our league.

[EMT]

Excellent posts by Bill Marsh and GoldenWarrior11.

Bill Marsh wrote:

If the brand identity is a major asset, why aren't the ratings higher?

Good question. Let’s look at some numbers.

MUPanther wrote:

Average Big East Viewership on FOX/FS1 by Season

2016-17: 192k
2015-16: 166k
2014-15: 143k
2013-14: 104k

Percentage increase from 2013-14 season to 2014-15 season = (143–104)/104 = 37.5 %

Percentage increase from 2014-15 season to 2015-16 season = (166–143)/143 = 16.1 %

Percentage increase from 2015-16 season to 2016-17 season = (192-166)/166 = 15.7 %

These numbers will not be giving comfort to Fox Sports executives.

In the 2016-17 season, the Big East had seven NCAA Tournament-bound teams, led by defending National Champion Villanova, who was ranked No. 1 in the AP Poll for most of the season, and finished at No. 1 in the Final AP Poll. The Big East finished third in Conference RPI Rankings:

Fieldhouse Flyer wrote:

This season, the Top 6 conferences had Final RPI Ratings of .550 or better, the next 6 conferences had Final RPI Ratings of .500 or better, and the remaining 20 conferences had Final RPI Ratings worse than .500.

RPI Rank, Conference, RPI Rating

1 Atlantic Coast Conference .5802
2 Big 12 .5779
3 Big East .5676
4 Big Ten .5653
5 Southeastern .5580
6 Pac 12 .5501

7 American Athletic Conference .5242
8 Atlantic 10 .5227
9 West Coast .5218
10 Mountain West .5208
11 Colonial .5040
12 Missouri Valley Conference .5007

The 2016-17 season was the best opportunity to date for a TV ratings jump since the 10-school Big East was formed, but instead, the 2016-17 season had the slowest rate of growth in TV viewership in the past three seasons.

In 2017-18, the Big East will average more than 200,000 viewers per game, but how many more above 200,000 is anyone’s guess.

The key questions whose answers are not available are:

1. What were Fox Sports’ expectations for viewership in the inaugural 2013-14 season?

2. What were Fox Sports’ expectations for the average annual increase in TV viewership?

The answers to these two questions will be fundamental when the Fox Sports TV Rights Contract expires eight years from now.
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In the longer term, the Big East will find it harder and harder to compete with the resources of the P5 conferences:

SEC Net Basketball Revenue = 20% of $32.7 million per year per school = $6.54 million per year per school.

Big Ten Net Basketball Revenue = 20% of $32.4 million per year per school = $6.48 million per year per school.

Pac-12 Net Basketball Revenue = 20% of $25.1 million per year per school = $5.02 million per year per school.

ACC Net Basketball Revenue = 20% of $26.2 million per year per school = $5.24 million per year per school.

Big 12 Net Basketball Revenue = 20% of $22.7 million per year per school = $4.54 million per year per school.

2015 Big East Payouts

Villanova $3,273,830
Xavier 3,220,709
Georgetown 3,217,909
Providence 2,977,189
Butler 2,950,070
St. John's 2,923,504
Marquette 2,703,538
DePaul 2,380,570
Seton Hall 2,377,653
Creighton 2,215,475

Total: $28,240,447
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The revenue gap between the P5 conferences and everyone else looks to grow in the future:

ESPN to launch ACC Network - Business Insider - July 21, 2016
ACC Commissioner John Swofford said Thursday the ACC Network will launch in August 2019 as part of an extended media deal with ESPN that now runs through the 2035-36 season.

The league will move to a 20-game league schedule in men's basketball by 2019, part of an effort to boost the available content toward the goal of airing more than 1,300 events annually through those outlets.

Swofford wouldn't comment afterward on the payouts to league schools with the creation of the ACC Network other than to say the rights fees "obviously go up" with the deal.

The ACC will become the fourth major conference with its own network, joining the Big Ten, Pac-12 and Southeastern Conference. The SEC also has ESPN as its partner and launched in August 2014.

The Big Ten’s new TV deal puts it into the lead, may provide a competitive edge - Andrew Bucholtz, AwfulAnnouncing – January 15, 2017
The cash spigot that is the Big Ten Network continues to pay huge dividends, especially since Rutgers and Maryland joined the league. In the fiscal year that ended in June 2015, according to USA Today, the Big Ten distributed $32.4 million to member schools that had full shares (Nebraska, Rutgers and Maryland did not). The money is about to go up, up, up.

The league’s new TV deal kicks in later this year, a reported $2.6 billion package over six years. The Cedar Rapids-Gazette reported that per-school payouts are conservatively estimated to top $43 million in 2017-18 and could top out at $54 million per school at the end of the contract.

That’s a lot of money.

ESPN is already overstretched financially, and has TV rights to more content than it can show. This likely means that ESPN will not be competing with Fox Sports for the Big East TV Rights Contract when it comes up for renewal in eight years’ time.

As many posters have previously written, maintaining the status quo may not be the best option for the Big East in the longer term.
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[BEwannabe]

really mods?

The Dayton Thread?

What a crock! Are you trying to inflict damage with the headline? Why not BOLD IT? And while you're at it, wave a RED cape in front of it!

[DudeAnon]

[BEXU]

Dayton sucks.

[REDMEN1415]

Dayton on a B.E. board? Is Dayton in the B.E. yet? No. Yeah, I guess they are potential member, but are they now? No

Why not wait until they are officially a member?

Makes no sense to me but run the board how you want.

[billyjack]

The idea was for Fieldhouse Flyer to upload his Wikipedia posts into this one thread, rather than having him dump stuff into multiple threads. This way we can avoid reading his posts altogether as long as we don't click on this thread.