Non-Rev Rumors

[BillEsq]

Ok... i know that some out there hate non-revs so look away.

But obviously there are some sports that in a 10 team league will either need to be put into another conference or the BE will have to add associate members. (otherwords i still have a rooting interest in Bellarmine Lacrosse)

Has anyone out their heard about the status of these non-revs? I think the BE needs at least 1 team for lacrosse and that is a big one. What about Field Hockey or any of the others? Anybody? I think just about every school has a non rev that has to either find a home or a new associate playmate...

[cm5yz6]

Ok... i know that some out there hate non-revs so look away.

But obviously there are some sports that in a 10 team league will either need to be put into another conference or the BE will have to add associate members. (otherwords i still have a rooting interest in Bellarmine Lacrosse)

Has anyone out their heard about the status of these non-revs? I think the BE needs at least 1 team for lacrosse and that is a big one. What about Field Hockey or any of the others? Anybody? I think just about every school has a non rev that has to either find a home or a new associate playmate...

Richmond will fill those for the conference if needed hahah

[BillEsq]

Richmond would be a good fit for non-revs. I think if you were moving to 12 the best additions if you were looking at filling out non-revs would be Slu Richmond, unless your concern was a 12 team soccer league in which case you would go Slu-Dayton. But i don't want to consider the potential for 10 vs 12 in this thread.

I am curious however on what will happen to the teams if there is a 10 team league. You will need additional members for some sports or find leagues for the non-revs. Does any BE school fan know of rumors for these non revs? Maybe Richmond Lacrosse only for a year?

[MUSeashells&Balloons]

I keep hearing John Hopkins Lacrosse Rumors which makes sense if they were looking for a conference finally.
"Multiple sources have said the Big Ten, the Big East and the Eastern College Athletic Conference are among those interested in Johns Hopkins.
— Inside Lacrosse"
The Big Ten isn't a good fit for Hopkins except for maybe Northwestern except it doesn't play lacrosse, and Lacrosse isn't as important as in the other two leagues.
ECAC would be serious competition though.

[marquette]

I don't see Hopkins joining us, we really don't have anything to offer them. I do believe we are planning to add associate members, but I would prefer if the current schools added programs.

[marquette]

Also, if anyone's interested here is a list of the current sports each school has. Obviously all have basketball.

School I LaX I Soccer I Baseball I Cross Country I Track/Field I Golf I Tennis I Swimming/Diving I Football (type) I
Marq I_X___I__X____I________I____X________I____X______I__X___I__X___I_________________I_____________I
GtownI__X__I__X____I__X_____I____X________I____X______I__X___I__X___I________X________I__X (FCS)_____I
Nova I__X__I__X____I__X_____I____X________I____X______I__X___I__X___I________X________I__X (FCS)_____I
John'sI__X__I__X____I__X_____I_____________I___________I__X___I__X___I_________________I_____________I
Prov I__X__I__X____I________I____X________I____X______I______I______I________X________I_____________I
S Hall I_____I__X____I___X____I____X________I___________I___X__I______I________X________I_____________I
D'Paul I_____I__X____I________I____X________I____X______I___X__I__X___I_________________I_____________I
Butler I_____I__X____I___X____I____X________I____X______I___X__I__X___I_________________I___X (FCS)____I
Creigh I_____I__X____I___X____I____X________I___________I___X__I__X___I_________________I_____________I
Xavier I_____I__X____I___X____I____X________I____X______I___X__I__X___I________X________I_____________I
Total I__5__I__10___I___7____I____9________I____7______I___9__I__8___I________5________I_____3_______I

SLU I_D2_I___X____I__X___I______X_______I____________I____I___X___I________X________I_____________I
UDay I____I___X____I__X___I______X_______I____________I__X__I__X___I_________________I____X (FCS)____I
URich I__X_I________I__X___I______X_______I_____X______I__X__I__X___I_________________I____X (FCS)____I
VCU I____I___X____I__X___I______X_______I_____X______I__X__I__X___I_________________I_______________I

[BillikensWin]

SLU-Creighton would be top-drawer in soccer.

[BillEsq]

Also, if anyone's interested here is a list of the current sports each school has. Obviously all have basketball.

School I LaX I Soccer I Baseball I Cross Country I Track/Field I Golf I Tennis I Swimming/Diving I Football (type) I
Marq I_X___I__X____I________I____X________I____X______I__X___I__X___I_________________I_____________I
GtownI__X__I__X____I__X_____I____X________I____X______I__X___I__X___I________X________I__X (FCS)_____I
Nova I__X__I__X____I__X_____I____X________I____X______I__X___I__X___I________X________I__X (FCS)_____I
John'sI__X__I__X____I__X_____I_____________I___________I__X___I__X___I_________________I_____________I
Prov I__X__I__X____I________I____X________I____X______I______I______I________X________I_____________I
S Hall I_____I__X____I___X____I____X________I___________I___X__I______I________X________I_____________I
D'Paul I_____I__X____I________I____X________I____X______I___X__I__X___I_________________I_____________I
Butler I_____I__X____I___X____I____X________I____X______I___X__I__X___I_________________I___X (FCS)____I
Creigh I_____I__X____I___X____I____X________I___________I___X__I__X___I_________________I_____________I
Xavier I_____I__X____I___X____I____X________I____X______I___X__I__X___I________X________I_____________I
Total I__5__I__10___I___7____I____9________I____7______I___9__I__8___I________5________I_____3_______I

SLU I_D2_I___X____I__X___I______X_______I____________I____I___X___I________X________I_____________I
UDay I____I___X____I__X___I______X_______I____________I__X__I__X___I_________________I____X (FCS)____I
URich I__X_I________I__X___I______X_______I_____X______I__X__I__X___I_________________I____X (FCS)____I
VCU I____I___X____I__X___I______X_______I_____X______I__X__I__X___I_________________I_______________I

Awesome Graph ... Slu has a track and field team with an awesome brand new facility your missing the women's sports so i guess we will have to add those as well. It looks like Lacrosse, Swimming, and Women's Field Hockey are the easiest to add. Obviously you solve that problem with the SLU-Richmond add but by staying at 10 teams it leads all soul searching. I've heard a couple of rumors the Hopkins one and the Bellarmine one in Lacrosse. I have also heard that some non revs from the AAC will be added to the BE non revs... is this true?

Isn't there a nova swimmer on this board? any ideas on what he thinks about the swimming situation?

[BillEsq]

Postby gmoser1210 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:44 pm
One thing that might be notable is the other sports offered by the two schools and the impact it would have on the conference offerings.

Assuming that the C7 adds Butler and Xavier but excluding both Dayton and SLU (so only looking at nine schools) these are the sports offered and the number of schools offering the sport:

Basketball (M): 9
Basketball (W): 9
Baseball (M): 6
Softball (W): 7
Cross Country (M): 8
Cross Country (W): 9
Fencing (M): 1
Fencing (W): 1
Field Hockey (W): 3
Golf (M): 8
Golf (W): 5
Ice Hockey (M): 1
Ice Hockey (W): 1
Lacrosse (M): 5
Lacrosse (W): 3
Rowing (M): 1
Rowing (W): 2
Sailing (M): 1
Sailing (W): 1
Soccer (M): 9
Soccer (W): 9
Swimming (M): 5
Swimming (W): 6
Tennis (M): 7
Tennis (W): 9
Track (M): 7
Track (W): 8
Volleyball (W): 9
Water Polo (W): 1

SLU would add a sixth men's swim team, a seventh women's swim team, and an eighth men's track and field team. Dayton would add a ninth men's golf team and a 6th women's golf team. Any other sports they offer (like Dayton's women's rowing team or SLU's field hockey team) wouldn't have an impact on whether the conference will offer the sport. Assuming you need six teams per sport, Dayton's women's golf team would help with Title IX concerns.

This was posted in another thread pre Creighton's run to the number 10 spot. If you combine it with Marquette's fine graph you see the BE needs 1 Men's Lacrosse, 3 womens lacrosse, one men's Swimming, three women's field Hockey and 1 women's golf. I think the other sports are out of reach and will likely be placed in other conferences (most already are). even if the league is bumped to 12 you will need associates in W Field Hockey and women's lacrosse. Likely new teams from inside the conference. Maybe this is a possibility?

[cm5yz6]

Also, if anyone's interested here is a list of the current sports each school has. Obviously all have basketball.

School I LaX I Soccer I Baseball I Cross Country I Track/Field I Golf I Tennis I Swimming/Diving I Football (type) I
Marq I_X___I__X____I________I____X________I____X______I__X___I__X___I_________________I_____________I
GtownI__X__I__X____I__X_____I____X________I____X______I__X___I__X___I________X________I__X (FCS)_____I
Nova I__X__I__X____I__X_____I____X________I____X______I__X___I__X___I________X________I__X (FCS)_____I
John'sI__X__I__X____I__X_____I_____________I___________I__X___I__X___I_________________I_____________I
Prov I__X__I__X____I________I____X________I____X______I______I______I________X________I_____________I
S Hall I_____I__X____I___X____I____X________I___________I___X__I______I________X________I_____________I
D'Paul I_____I__X____I________I____X________I____X______I___X__I__X___I_________________I_____________I
Butler I_____I__X____I___X____I____X________I____X______I___X__I__X___I_________________I___X (FCS)____I
Creigh I_____I__X____I___X____I____X________I___________I___X__I__X___I_________________I_____________I
Xavier I_____I__X____I___X____I____X________I____X______I___X__I__X___I________X________I_____________I
Total I__5__I__10___I___7____I____9________I____7______I___9__I__8___I________5________I_____3_______I

SLU I_D2_I___X____I__X___I______X_______I____________I____I___X___I________X________I_____________I
UDay I____I___X____I__X___I______X_______I____________I__X__I__X___I_________________I____X (FCS)____I
URich I__X_I________I__X___I______X_______I_____X______I__X__I__X___I_________________I____X (FCS)____I
VCU I____I___X____I__X___I______X_______I_____X______I__X__I__X___I_________________I_______________I

You have to fill the women's sports too. The schools do not necessarily have the same sports for women. Richmond has women's field hockey, swimming/diving, soccer, and crew in addition to the sports that are available to both men and women.