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Re: Latest rumors on C7

Postby BigAnt2191 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:32 pm

If G'town and St. John's were to bolt the Big East and Join the ACC the rest of the B5 would be in trouble. And trust me, there has been talk about in the past about Georgetown and St. John's joining the ACC which is not far fetch considering the ACC can lose up to 8 teams from the Big 10, SEC, and Big 12 respectively. St. John's and Georgetown can join the ACC the way Notre Dame did, which is all sports except football. Also note, they will get the support since the remaining schools will be former Big East Memebers. Now will this happen, probably not, but you never know what the future holds. So, with that being said, I think if Thompsons felt differently, and since they have the ear of their administration, you know the rest of the conference would be concern. Do you think coach K don't have the ear of Duke Administration? Just some food for thought.
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Postby Jet915 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:02 am

BigAnt2191 wrote:If G'town and St. John's were to bolt the Big East and Join the ACC the rest of the B5 would be in trouble. And trust me, there has been talk about in the past about Georgetown and St. John's joining the ACC which is not far fetch considering the ACC can lose up to 8 teams from the Big 10, SEC, and Big 12 respectively. St. John's and Georgetown can join the ACC the way Notre Dame did, which is all sports except football. Also note, they will get the support since the remaining schools will be former Big East Memebers. Now will this happen, probably not, but you never know what the future holds. So, with that being said, I think if Thompsons felt differently, and since they have the ear of their administration, you know the rest of the conference would be concern. Do you think coach K don't have the ear of Duke Administration? Just some food for thought.


I hear what you are saying but if the ACC gets raided and loses alot of teams, are they really that attractive to BE7 teams? Seems like they would be joining a newer version of what they left and be in a football/basketball hybride league again.
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Re: Latest rumors on C7

Postby admin » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:07 am

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BigAnt2191 wrote:If G'town and St. John's were to bolt the Big East and Join the ACC the rest of the B5 would be in trouble. And trust me, there has been talk about in the past about Georgetown and St. John's joining the ACC which is not far fetch considering the ACC can lose up to 8 teams from the Big 10, SEC, and Big 12 respectively. St. John's and Georgetown can join the ACC the way Notre Dame did, which is all sports except football. Also note, they will get the support since the remaining schools will be former Big East Memebers. Now will this happen, probably not, but you never know what the future holds. So, with that being said, I think if Thompsons felt differently, and since they have the ear of their administration, you know the rest of the conference would be concern. Do you think coach K don't have the ear of Duke Administration? Just some food for thought.


I hear what you are saying but if the ACC gets raided and loses alot of teams, are they really that attractive to BE7 teams? Seems like they would be joining a newer version of what they left and be in a football/basketball hybride league again.


It's an interesting theory, but would essentially be entering exactly what the BE was. Unless the lure of continued games with Cuse and Pitt make that much difference. I think the C7 have plans laid out and there's no turning back at this point.
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Re: Latest rumors on C7

Postby xu5595 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:35 am

BigAnt2191 wrote:If G'town and St. John's were to bolt the Big East and Join the ACC the rest of the B5 would be in trouble. And trust me, there has been talk about in the past about Georgetown and St. John's joining the ACC which is not far fetch considering the ACC can lose up to 8 teams from the Big 10, SEC, and Big 12 respectively. St. John's and Georgetown can join the ACC the way Notre Dame did, which is all sports except football. Also note, they will get the support since the remaining schools will be former Big East Memebers. Now will this happen, probably not, but you never know what the future holds. So, with that being said, I think if Thompsons felt differently, and since they have the ear of their administration, you know the rest of the conference would be concern. Do you think coach K don't have the ear of Duke Administration? Just some food for thought.


No, I don't think it would be much of a concern to the rest of the conference. If G'Town could join the ACC like Notre Dame, they would be gone tomorrow and the rest of the conference knows this.
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Re: Latest rumors on C7

Postby yorost » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:46 am

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Jet915 wrote:
BigAnt2191 wrote:If G'town and St. John's were to bolt the Big East and Join the ACC the rest of the B5 would be in trouble. And trust me, there has been talk about in the past about Georgetown and St. John's joining the ACC which is not far fetch considering the ACC can lose up to 8 teams from the Big 10, SEC, and Big 12 respectively. St. John's and Georgetown can join the ACC the way Notre Dame did, which is all sports except football. Also note, they will get the support since the remaining schools will be former Big East Memebers. Now will this happen, probably not, but you never know what the future holds. So, with that being said, I think if Thompsons felt differently, and since they have the ear of their administration, you know the rest of the conference would be concern. Do you think coach K don't have the ear of Duke Administration? Just some food for thought.


I hear what you are saying but if the ACC gets raided and loses alot of teams, are they really that attractive to BE7 teams? Seems like they would be joining a newer version of what they left and be in a football/basketball hybride league again.


It's an interesting theory, but would essentially be entering exactly what the BE was. Unless the lure of continued games with Cuse and Pitt make that much difference. I think the C7 have plans laid out and there's no turning back at this point.

Plans can change quickly.

The ACC is a danger, but a very hard one to judge. Jet915 seems right to me, if the ACC is getting raided would any of the BE7 want to join? We can probably assume UConn and Cincy are going first, since they're quality basketball and football. Heck, Temple and Memphis might be attractive, first, too. It might be a good situation short term, but it would be like jumping on a sinking ship. Will the ACC add a basketball only school until it's desperate? Notre Dame is most definitely not basketball only like it was in the Big East. The ACC made themselves the most visible conference on Notre Dame's football schedule.
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Re: Latest rumors on C7

Postby xu5595 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:59 am

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BigAnt2191 wrote:Perhaps in other colleges or university that mighf be the case. But both Father and Son (Thompson) play a major role in the direction of the Basketball program. Thompson the third is a major voice on getting the IAC built sooner rather than later. There no major baketball decision being made admistration wise without the Thompson clan being consulted first. If you don't see that, then you don't really know about G'town basketball.


Having influence at G'Town in basketball matters is one thing, but I'm sure the presidents and ad's at the other C7 schools could care less about JT3.


You're missing his point. If JT3 says something about the conference you better believe he's already said it President DeGioia. While its unclear how all these decisions are being made, it is clear that Georgetown is taking the lead in many areas. Finally most statements (if not all) that come out of Georgetown are calculated. If the decision had already been made Gonzaga didn't work geographically, I really don't see JT3 making statements about wanting them in the league.


If you read JT3's comments, they aren't exactly calculated and he fully recognizes that it might not be realistic due to geography. They were also given to a blog in which he was likely asked directly about Gonzaga. It's his opinion, but not exactly a unique one either. No one is going to disagree on Gonzaga from a basketball standpoint.
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Re: Latest rumors on C7

Postby Dew » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:49 am

C7 commish: "any other discussion on adding teams?"
GTown Pres: "my coach would like Gonzaga"
C7 commish: "your coach? Um okay, let the notes reflect that a coach has an opinion. Any other discussion?"

Trust me, the c7 presidents don't give a rip what any coach of any school wants.
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Re: Latest rumors on C7

Postby BigAnt2191 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:56 pm

The last I checked was St. John's and Georgetown were spear heading for this new conference. Georgetown and St. John's tells the rest of the B5 they want Gonzaga to make the conference stronger. If you guys object we bounce and go some where else.. Any questions? Remember, no St.John's no madison square garden and no NYC market. No Georgetown, no DC market another brand name team to leave. You still think fox is going to dish out big bucks without those two schoola that play in big media markets? If you believe that, than I have a bridge in Brooklyn I wamt to sell you.
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Re: Latest rumors on C7

Postby yorost » Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:08 pm

What people likely think is that you're reading way beyond JT3's comments. You're going from...

[Gonzaga coach] Mark [Few's] done a great job out there. I’d be for that but I don’t know whether that’s realistic.


...to St. John's and Georgetown bolting if Gonzaga isn't invited.
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Re: Latest rumors on C7

Postby BigAnt2191 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:39 pm

No actually, I am going by from what I heard recently behind closed doors that both St. JOHN'S and Georgetown want Gonzaga in the league. The point I was making about JT3 and father to one poster was that he they have the ear of their president big time as oppose to other coaches. This whyI made the reference to Coach K of Duke who has the ear of his President. Anyway, the point is, there are schools in the B7 that are advocating for Gonzaga.
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