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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby EMT » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:50 am

adoraz wrote:Why 6 years?? On paper this is a very underwhelming hire, but it could work because of the transfers potentially staying and him making the Tournament year one.

Anyone see all of the "Georgetown was my dream school" Tweets he did 5 years ago (can't confirm if real)? If true, did PC even run a background check?


Of course a 34 yr old black man from Baltimore is going to idolize GT.

My hunch on 6 years is it is the security required to increase the buyout upon exit and I'd have to think that there is an additional kicker for leaving to an in conference school.
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Postby Jasper67 » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:59 am

adoraz wrote:Why 6 years?? On paper this is a very underwhelming hire, but it could work because of the transfers potentially staying and him making the Tournament year one.


Yes, on paper it’s an underwhelming hire, but he seems to be highly thought of by people in the business and has been described as a rising star, which was the same description that was used foe Cooley when he was an assistant at BC. A lot goes into evaluating candidates in any industry. Sometimes people are selected for high level positions, including CEO despite their relative youth and inexperience. And sometimes it works out.

Wouldn’t it be ironic if he turns out to be the best hire of the three?
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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby adoraz » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:03 am

EMT wrote:
adoraz wrote:Why 6 years?? On paper this is a very underwhelming hire, but it could work because of the transfers potentially staying and him making the Tournament year one.

Anyone see all of the "Georgetown was my dream school" Tweets he did 5 years ago (can't confirm if real)? If true, did PC even run a background check?


Of course a 34 yr old black man from Baltimore is going to idolize GT.

Mu hunch on 6 years is it is the security required to increase the buyout upon exit and I'd have to think that there is an additional kicker for leaving to an in conference school.


Nobody said they needed to hire a 34 year old black man from Baltimore, especially someone who I never knew coached until a couple days ago (I've been following coaching candidates a lot over the past year). I thought a large reason they'd hire an unknown would be connections to PC ensuring he'll be there for a while. Now it seems that even if he's successful then Georgetown could be a possibility once Cooley retires.

All thar said, I don't like what Cooley did and am happy to hear that the transfers should stay (was thinking Cooley could/would raid PC). I'm rooting for PC to have a strong first year and that could go a long way towards making this a successful hire.
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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby EMT » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:10 am

adoraz wrote:
EMT wrote:
adoraz wrote:Why 6 years?? On paper this is a very underwhelming hire, but it could work because of the transfers potentially staying and him making the Tournament year one.

Anyone see all of the "Georgetown was my dream school" Tweets he did 5 years ago (can't confirm if real)? If true, did PC even run a background check?


Of course a 34 yr old black man from Baltimore is going to idolize GT.

Mu hunch on 6 years is it is the security required to increase the buyout upon exit and I'd have to think that there is an additional kicker for leaving to an in conference school.


Nobody said they needed to hire a 34 year old black man from Baltimore, especially someone who I never knew coached until a couple days ago (I've been following coaching candidates a lot over the past year). I thought a large reason they'd hire an unknown would be connections to PC ensuring he'll be there for a while. Now it seems that even if he's successful then Georgetown could be a possibility once Cooley retires.

All thar said, I don't like what Cooley did and am happy to hear that the transfers should stay (was thinking Cooley could/would raid PC). I'm rooting for PC to have a strong first year and that could go a long way towards making this a successful hire.


Agree. Nap has been clued into this guy since early Feb, when they confronted Cooley about GT rumors and he lied to them. They expected him to blow up in the next year or two and are buying early on him.
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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby kayako » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:59 am

adoraz wrote:Why 6 years?? On paper this is a very underwhelming hire, but it could work because of the transfers potentially staying and him making the Tournament year one.

Anyone see all of the "Georgetown was my dream school" Tweets he did 5 years ago (can't confirm if real)? If true, did PC even run a background check?


It sounded to me like PC's AD actually had a lot of input on this one, as he was on TV last week literally telling people that the next hire will define his career. With alternatives being the likes of Becker, Schmidt, Langel, etc., swing for the fences situation, I guess.
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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby FenwayFriar » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:23 pm

kayako wrote:
adoraz wrote:Why 6 years?? On paper this is a very underwhelming hire, but it could work because of the transfers potentially staying and him making the Tournament year one.

Anyone see all of the "Georgetown was my dream school" Tweets he did 5 years ago (can't confirm if real)? If true, did PC even run a background check?


It sounded to me like PC's AD actually had a lot of input on this one, as he was on TV last week literally telling people that the next hire will define his career. With alternatives being the likes of Becker, Schmidt, Langel, etc., swing for the fences situation, I guess.


Our AD is not being shy. Here's one for all of those who for some reason think hiring a coach inter-conference is somehow a good thing for the league. There's no doubt the league has changed after all of this, and not for the better. Turns out our conference isn't unique after all. And as a fan of the Big East Conference as a whole, that kinda sucks.

Providence AD Steve Napolillo:

"I thought the AD at Georgetown was a mentor to me and a friend."

"I understand the business, but I really thought, at the Big East, we had something different."

"We had respect. We had integrity."

"That's been completely thrown out the door."

https://twitter.com/IanSteeleABC6/status/1639021475809116162
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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby gosports1 » Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:55 am

I think many PC fans thought that with Cooley we found our Boeheim, Calhoun, Few etc We believed the coach for life schtick that was thrown around. Things change. Most rational people accept and understand that. Cooley is gone let's move on and learn that nothing is for ever. English is young, aggressive and ambitious. Lets hope he delivers. If (when) he moves on it will hopefully be due to his success.
He has connections in talent rich DC. Maybe DC recruits will want to play for a DC guy in New England more than they want to play for a New England guy in DC
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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby sju88grad » Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:22 am

gosports1 wrote:I think many PC fans thought that with Cooley we found our Boeheim, Calhoun, Few etc We believed the coach for life schtick that was thrown around. Things change. Most rational people accept and understand that. Cooley is gone let's move on and learn that nothing is for ever. English is young, aggressive and ambitious. Lets hope he delivers. If (when) he moves on it will hopefully be due to his success.
He has connections in talent rich DC. Maybe DC recruits will want to play for a DC guy in New England more than they want to play for a New England guy in DC


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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby ecasadoSBU » Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:24 am

FenwayFriar wrote:
kayako wrote:
adoraz wrote:Why 6 years?? On paper this is a very underwhelming hire, but it could work because of the transfers potentially staying and him making the Tournament year one.

Anyone see all of the "Georgetown was my dream school" Tweets he did 5 years ago (can't confirm if real)? If true, did PC even run a background check?


It sounded to me like PC's AD actually had a lot of input on this one, as he was on TV last week literally telling people that the next hire will define his career. With alternatives being the likes of Becker, Schmidt, Langel, etc., swing for the fences situation, I guess.


Our AD is not being shy. Here's one for all of those who for some reason think hiring a coach inter-conference is somehow a good thing for the league. There's no doubt the league has changed after all of this, and not for the better. Turns out our conference isn't unique after all. And as a fan of the Big East Conference as a whole, that kinda sucks.

Providence AD Steve Napolillo:

"I thought the AD at Georgetown was a mentor to me and a friend."

"I understand the business, but I really thought, at the Big East, we had something different."

"We had respect. We had integrity."

"That's been completely thrown out the door."

https://twitter.com/IanSteeleABC6/status/1639021475809116162



Those are some heavy quotes. Ouch. It does suck. For a time we all thought the Big East was this group of catholic school banding together against the world.

Well... I guess the league is NOW in the top so its has no need to protect itself from everyone else. Now we are back to pre-2014 Big East where members are out to get each other.

It is what it is. I think the league will be fine... Providence will be fine... Everyone will be fine at the end of the day.
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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby Jasper67 » Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:23 am

ecasadoSBU wrote:
FenwayFriar wrote:
kayako wrote:

It sounded to me like PC's AD actually had a lot of input on this one, as he was on TV last week literally telling people that the next hire will define his career. With alternatives being the likes of Becker, Schmidt, Langel, etc., swing for the fences situation, I guess.


Our AD is not being shy. Here's one for all of those who for some reason think hiring a coach inter-conference is somehow a good thing for the league. There's no doubt the league has changed after all of this, and not for the better. Turns out our conference isn't unique after all. And as a fan of the Big East Conference as a whole, that kinda sucks.

Providence AD Steve Napolillo:

"I thought the AD at Georgetown was a mentor to me and a friend."

"I understand the business, but I really thought, at the Big East, we had something different."

"We had respect. We had integrity."

"That's been completely thrown out the door."

https://twitter.com/IanSteeleABC6/status/1639021475809116162



Those are some heavy quotes. Ouch. It does suck. For a time we all thought the Big East was this group of catholic school banding together against the world.

Well... I guess the league is NOW in the top so its has no need to protect itself from everyone else. Now we are back to pre-2014 Big East where members are out to get each other.

It is what it is. I think the league will be fine... Providence will be fine... Everyone will be fine at the end of the day.


Yes, and I can see a scenario in which Providence not only lands on its feet but ends up with the best of the 3 coaching hires.
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