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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby kayako » Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:57 pm

Cooley is aware of his mediocre tourney resume, and probably thinks he can do better at Georgetown. And I guess Georgetown feels that way, too. I don't know whether this is a grass looking greener situation, but most people feel very similarly about themselves.
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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby cr8onbb » Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:14 pm

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xusandy wrote:Wow! So much unlove in the foregoing posts for Cooley! Hey Friars fans, he got to the tournament (AGAIN!) with a roster of transfers and mostly supporting players who returned, a team not expected to do much this year. Ed Cooley is a GREAT coach! As an X fan, I have no dog in this fight, but I'd like to see him stay at PU.

But there's a financial mountain there -- PU being the smallest school in the BEAST and therefore (presumably) somewhat strapped for the cash needed to compete in the new NIL landscape of professional college sports -- so Ed might well move on to a university with deeper pockets. Doncha all hate what what's happening here? Has a Miami recruit really been signed to an NIL deal offering $5M plus for a four year commitment? Will the SEC and Big 10 soon have almost all of the top 20 football AND basketball teams??


The point isn't to discredit Cooley, it's just that taking a coach from your own conference is something so off-limits that it'd only be understandable if it were a really special coach (such as Jay Wright). Could Cooley become a championship winning (or at least Elite 8 level) coach at Georgetown? I guess it's possible (same with other candidates), but his current resume isn't elite by any means. People just give him an exaggerated amount of credit because PC has a small enrollment, but they're still a Big East team. Another issue is with UConn campaigning for a football invite it's not a good thing to destabilize our consistent New England team.

Also, PC I believe had the #1 transfer class this year. That's impressive in itself, but it's not like Cooley was coaching a bunch of 3 stars. He got some good players to the Tournament as one of the last teams in and lost.

If Pitino goes to St. John's, then I'd personally rank Cooley as exactly an average Big East coach (behind Smart, Pitino, McDermott, Miller, and Hurley).


I would put Cooley above Hurley on that list. UCONN has good players, but I feel they are held back by mediocre coaching.
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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby XU85 » Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:53 am

adoraz wrote:Lol so Georgetown has pushed another Big East team to pay even more to Cooley (which happens basically every year now).

No offense to Cooley, he's an excellent coach, but he has THREE Tournament wins since he started coaching in 2006. Georgetown is going after him like he's Bill Self. If he were Bill Self, then yeah I could maybe understand going this hard after another Big East team, but he's not.


I agree with your take. Cooley by all accounts is a great guy and entertaining to listen to but he has fallen below expectations in the NCAA tournament.
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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby adoraz » Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:34 pm

cr8onbb wrote:
adoraz wrote:
xusandy wrote:Wow! So much unlove in the foregoing posts for Cooley! Hey Friars fans, he got to the tournament (AGAIN!) with a roster of transfers and mostly supporting players who returned, a team not expected to do much this year. Ed Cooley is a GREAT coach! As an X fan, I have no dog in this fight, but I'd like to see him stay at PU.

But there's a financial mountain there -- PU being the smallest school in the BEAST and therefore (presumably) somewhat strapped for the cash needed to compete in the new NIL landscape of professional college sports -- so Ed might well move on to a university with deeper pockets. Doncha all hate what what's happening here? Has a Miami recruit really been signed to an NIL deal offering $5M plus for a four year commitment? Will the SEC and Big 10 soon have almost all of the top 20 football AND basketball teams??


The point isn't to discredit Cooley, it's just that taking a coach from your own conference is something so off-limits that it'd only be understandable if it were a really special coach (such as Jay Wright). Could Cooley become a championship winning (or at least Elite 8 level) coach at Georgetown? I guess it's possible (same with other candidates), but his current resume isn't elite by any means. People just give him an exaggerated amount of credit because PC has a small enrollment, but they're still a Big East team. Another issue is with UConn campaigning for a football invite it's not a good thing to destabilize our consistent New England team.

Also, PC I believe had the #1 transfer class this year. That's impressive in itself, but it's not like Cooley was coaching a bunch of 3 stars. He got some good players to the Tournament as one of the last teams in and lost.

If Pitino goes to St. John's, then I'd personally rank Cooley as exactly an average Big East coach (behind Smart, Pitino, McDermott, Miller, and Hurley).


I would put Cooley above Hurley on that list. UCONN has good players, but I feel they are held back by mediocre coaching.


That's fair, but even if Cooley is 5th rather than 6th the point still stands. One spot above average is not worth it.

Also, this:

https://twitter.com/MHershgordon/status ... 5930938368

Morey Hershgordon @MHershgordon
Exclusive interview with PC Athletic Director Steve Napolillo #pcbb
@wpri12

Ed Cooley could become the first intra-conference coaching change in Big East history.

"I don't think it's a good look for the Big East Conference at all."



Yikes! Shameful for both Cooley and Georgetown. Seems Cooley is almost certainly gone if PC's AD is saying this.
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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby micgoG'town » Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:43 pm

G'town President Jack DeGioio and John Thompson had a tight 40 year relationship and he is obsessed with "keeping it in the family". He views Cooley as like a son to Thompson. No Hoya fan wants DeGioio making the decision, but it is what it is. I like Cooley and his floor is desperately needed at G'town. Would much prefer they go all out for Shrewsberry though. If Providence gives him the NIL money he's after, I still think he stays a Friar.
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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby stever20 » Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:26 am

From Rothstein:
Ed Cooley put his Rhode Island home on the market for sale this morning, per Zillow.
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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby Jet915 » Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:11 am

stever20 wrote:From Rothstein:
Ed Cooley put his Rhode Island home on the market for sale this morning, per Zillow.


I never thought he'd leave Providence for Georgetown but I guess its happening...
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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby stever20 » Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:13 am

Jet915 wrote:
stever20 wrote:From Rothstein:
Ed Cooley put his Rhode Island home on the market for sale this morning, per Zillow.


I never thought he'd leave Providence for Georgetown but I guess its happening...


I agree. Wonder what names Providence would look at to replace Cooley if it goes down like it looks.
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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby gosports1 » Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:19 am

I'm back! Not that any of you knew i was gone. My take, he is gone. If he wants a change fine, can't fault him for that. He did a good job at PC and helped the program and city. There are over 300 D1 programs why go to one of the 10 that should be, unofficially, off limits? To make things worse he gives non answers all week, was on TV last night claiming his mind wasn't made up and hasn't received an official offer. TIP": If you want to pretend you aren't moving, wait more than 12 hours before you put your house up for sale. That might make you lies more believable.
He is also the highest paid coach in the BE and one of the top 15 in the country so it seems PC is willing to invest.
Hopefully PC goes for a name in their next hire
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Re: It's time to review Providence

Postby Husky_U » Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:24 am

Never imagined the day where Providence fans despise Cooley more than Hurley.

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