Who is your rival? In the new league who would be?

[Jet915]

The "Main" Rivalries imo.

Marquette - DePaul (come one DePaul, make this more fun!)
St. John's - Seton Hall (Makes the most sense)
Georgetown -Villanova
St. Louis - Creighton
Xavier - Dayton (if UD gets in, Butler if VCU/Richmond/someone else)
Butler - Providence (they both wear black?)

You guys are trying to hard this is a league that will be full of private ed students from major cities with long standing rivalries. See as follows.
East

Nova v. GT Philly v. DC
St. Johns v. Seton Hall - NY v NJ
Providence v. St. Johns - NE v. NY
Nova v. St. Johns Philly v. NY
Richmond/VCU would be the hard one as the only true rivalry would be DC v. Virginia but hell they fought a war in the 1800's it might work.

(plus all the good History that was the Big East)
Moving on BE 5 v. 6 west teams BE 5 angry cause they are upstarts not from east coast- midwest teams upset for the ole east coast bias (that seems to work for rivalries in the MLB and NFL which you might want to see a connection to these cities if you havn't already.)

West
Marquette v. Depaul - Milwaukee v. Chicago easy enough
SLU v. Depaul - St. Louis v. Chicago easy enough and STLs fan base is pissed about being stuck in the A-10 while depaul got in the Big E
X v. Dayton obvious rivals plus x fans still are bitter about not getting in the old midwest conference.
Add in Dayton v. SLU, Marquette and Depaul for not bringing them into the old Conf USA
SLU v. Marquette good rivalry before Milwaukee v. St. Louis and Marquette left them for the Big East with Depaul
Add in everyone against Dayton fans.. cause well their annoying and wear sweater vests... add dayton against all the others because they think they are unfairly judged because they are not in a top tier city.

Butler is tough- none of these schools have any real rivalry with Butler other than the fact that their from Indiana and while we like hoosiers and its an honor to play at the Hinkle but Indiana is regarded as the armpit of the midwest for a reason.

I don't think Creighton is in but if they are feel free to say versus st. louis trust me they hate the fact that STL looks down on their lil valley conference and all there accomplishments there.

Cross regions
any west vs. Georgetwon for the stereotype of being above everyone else
any west v St. Johns... .i mean who doesn't cheer against NY
any west v Nova... i'm sure at least one nova fan booed santa( i mean its philly)

any east v. Marquette (just who are these guys thinking they can play with us at our sport)
any east v. any ranked west team (again just who are these guys thinking they can play with us at our sport)
any east v. dayton.. (just wait till the seatervests fill your arenas they are like cockroaches)

The fact is we don't have to try for rivalries it is in most of these fan bases blood to root against our rust belt cities year round in all sports. These colleges are peers, recruit the same kinds of students, and well when we go back to the office/computer the alumni we wanna talk smack too. I mean lets face it this league is going to be fun.... real fun... and i look forward to friendly smack talking all of you guys.

You are high if you think Butler isn't rivals with Xavier

I think the main point of his post was to interject SLU as much as he could into the rivalries.

[BillEsq]

Actually i really only put Slu into 2 real rivalries Depaul and Marquette really because st louis v Chicago and Milwaukee are kind of no brainers for sports rivalries see history of midwest sports since 1890.

My real point is that the potential league has many good rivalries and should potentially give all the teams involved many sell outs. which is good for everyone right?

Personally i want Creighton in and i did not mean to slight them it is just that most of the so called reports have them out so i for the most part left them out. However i think that they would do fine in the long run and soon develop rivalries with the rest of the league.

I admit i might be wrong but i don't think many x fans see butler as a rival, at least none ive ever met. I mean a good game yes but rival no. I would think that for X its cincy 1st then Dayton 2nd. Lets face it 10 years ago butler v. X would have been a no deal. 5 years ago not much more than a good game. 2-3 years ago a nice OOC scheduling. I don't think of 1 year in the A-10 makes Butler the rival. Then again i think long history makes a rivalry. I'm thinkin cubs-cards - yanks-sox Giants-eagles Skins-Giants skins-eagles i mean i could go on but am i the only one who sees the similarities in the cities and schools that are popping up as possibilities and the natural rivalries that are present? maybe i'm making too big of a leap.

[BillikensWin]

Creighton would be one hell of an add to the league. Saint Louis picking a nice time to start going psycho on opponents.

[BillEsq]

Creighton would be one hell of an add to the league. Saint Louis picking a nice time to start going psycho on opponents.

I agree- i hope we both get in but in the event that one or both of us don't i hope this stirs up enough to get some home and homes for both basketball, baseball and soccer between SLU and Creighton; of all the teams in the valley and we get stuck playin methdale every year bring on Creighton.

[yorost]

The "Main" Rivalries imo.
SLU v. Marquette good rivalry before Milwaukee v. St. Louis and Marquette left them for the Big East with Depaul

It was?!? Sorry, I was there at the end of our CUSA days and had completely forgotten St. Louis was even in it until this whole mess started.

[BillEsq]

The "Main" Rivalries imo.
SLU v. Marquette good rivalry before Milwaukee v. St. Louis and Marquette left them for the Big East with Depaul

It was?!? Sorry, I was there at the end of our CUSA days and had completely forgotten St. Louis was even in it until this whole mess started.

Really you missed some good BBall some good games played back then. Conference USA was pretty competitive there at the end kept getting screwed by the selection committee and got stuck sending multiple teams to the NIT then again i guess 8 out of 12 teams a year in either the NCAA isn't to bad. Hell even Depaul had a pulse back then. Not to mention the Great Midwest prior to that let me tell you a conference with Cincy Dayton DePaul Marquette and SLUH every game was tough. If you ever get a chance go watch a game (i think they might even be in color) or talk to some "old timer" who remembers the 90's lots of good basketball.

[yorost]

I probably did see a St. Louis game. Being a part of that group in CUSA was pretty exciting as we were making a real push to being a major. Big East sure ended that. I could have told you the Big East teams along with Memphis and Charlotte were there, but the rest I'd forgotten who was who. Rivals don't slip your mind.

[BillEsq]

I probably did see a St. Louis game. Being a part of that group in CUSA was pretty exciting as we were making a real push to being a major. Big East sure ended that. I could have told you the Big East teams along with Memphis and Charlotte were there, but the rest I'd forgotten who was who. Rivals don't slip your mind.

Fair enough... i won't belabor the point viva la Charlotte. On a friendly note are you a life time local marquette fan or out of state alumni? it doesn't matter just curious. and i hope you enjoy the future Marquette SLU games always a good rivalry not too bad of a drive to get to the games and well i do love Milwaukee i need to get back up to Maders curious if you know if its still open.

[yorost]

I had my wedding reception in Mader's, no joke! Best idea I ever had! Yeah, it's still there last I knew.

I'm from Wisconsin, but grew up in Badger's territory. Marquette was the school people grudgingly supported because they were in the state, but you never saw the games on tv. So I didn't play close attention until Crean's first year.

I'm not trying to be negative towards St. Louis, ever since you hired Majerus I've rather liked you. I just don't think it was a rivalry. Louisville was our main rival, no question, while I was there. Cincy and DePaul were the others. That's not saying St. Louis was bad at the time, Memphis was never like a rival, either.

[BillEsq]

I had my wedding reception in Mader's, no joke! Best idea I ever had! Yeah, it's still there last I knew.

I'm from Wisconsin, but grew up in Badger's territory. Marquette was the school people grudgingly supported because they were in the state, but you never saw the games on tv. So I didn't play close attention until Crean's first year.

I'm not trying to be negative towards St. Louis, ever since you hired Majerus I've rather liked you. I just don't think it was a rivalry. Louisville was our main rival, no question, while I was there. Cincy and DePaul were the others. That's not saying St. Louis was bad at the time, Memphis was never like a rival, either.

Well i salute your good taste in reception sites and that alone qualifies you for the new League Commish!!!! unfortunately my best memories from Maders are of my first 'BOOT'

Ahh you would have loved the Great Midwest years great games, great traditional rivalries, and full arenas, heck if they would have taken Xavier over Cincy this all could be a lot different (alas see history of bb only schools merged with FBS schools).

Nah trust me i'm a cubs fan i've bashed STL more than you can dream (wisconsin too -Bears fan) unfortunately my family moved there when i was young and i ended up going to about a hundred bills games and developing a perverse love of the fat white gremlin. but outside of it being my pops alma mater my only real connection is a few summer credit hours in undergrad. But as a Louisville native, and UofL alumni i can assure you its all UK with barely any room left for Cincy as far as rivals go.