trephin wrote:Fieldhouse Flyer wrote:
Georgetown would be well-advised to join Butler (and Dayton) in the Pioneer Football League.
I have no inside information but I am certain Georgetown fully knew what the consequences were when it decided on maintaining the no scholarship policy and that there is more to it's decision to stay in the PL than wins and losses. I bet the Patriot League's academic prestige and regional foes are very important factors.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------In 1992, several Division I schools playing Division III in football, most notably Georgetown University, were forced to make their football programs Division I. This directly led to the creation of the Pioneer Football League, a non-scholarship football-only Division I FCS conference that remains in operation today. Although Georgetown still does not award football scholarships, it has never been a PFL member.
beltwaybluejay wrote:
There were no NCAA divisions before 1973.
Division III formed in 1973, and is the NCAA’s largest division, with approximately 40% of the total membership. The Division consists of colleges and universities that choose not to offer athletically-related financial aid (athletic scholarships) to their student-athletes.
Wikipedia's Xavier Musketeers Football article wrote:
The Xavier Musketeers football program was discontinued in 1973, citing cost concerns.
The Division I Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) was formerly known as Division I-AA.
Division I-AA was formed in 1978. "Division I-AA" was changed to "Football Championship Subdivision" by the NCAA in 2006, although it is still informally and commonly used.
Division I FCS schools are currently restricted to giving financial assistance amounting to 63 full scholarships. As FCS football is an "equivalency" sport (as opposed to the "head-count" status of FBS football), Championship Subdivision schools may divide their allotment into partial scholarships. However, FCS schools may only have 85 players receiving any sort of athletic financial aid for football—the same numeric limit as FBS schools. Because of competitive forces, however, a substantial number of players in Championship Subdivision programs are on full scholarships.
Another difference is that FCS schools are allowed to award financial aid to as many as 30 new players per season, as opposed to 25 in FBS. Finally, FCS schools are limited to 95 individuals participating in preseason practices, as opposed to 105 at FBS schools (the three service academies that play FBS football are exempt from preseason practice player limits by NCAA rule).
A few Championship Subdivision conferences are composed of schools that offer no athletic scholarships at all, most notably the Ivy League and the Pioneer Football League (PFL) - a football-only conference. The Ivy League allows no athletic scholarships at all, while the PFL consists of schools that offer scholarships in other sports but choose not to take on the expense of a scholarship football program.
trephin wrote:
I am certain Georgetown fully knew what the consequences were when it decided on maintaining the no scholarship policy and that there is more to it's decision to stay in the PL than wins and losses.
I bet the Patriot League's academic prestige and regional foes are very important factors.
Ranked #20 in National Universities
Georgetown University is ranked #2 out of 253 Catholic Institutions
Patriot League football was non-scholarship until the league presidents voted to approve football scholarships starting with the 2013 recruiting class. Once the transition to scholarship football is complete in the 2016 season, the total number of scholarship equivalents cannot exceed 60 in any season, three short of the NCAA FCS maximum. However, Georgetown does not offer football scholarships.
Patriot League Football - 2016 Final Standings
TEAM • CONF • OVR
Lehigh • 6-0 • 9-3
Fordham • 5-1 • 8-3
Colgate • 4-2 • 5-5
Bucknell • 3-3 • 4-7
Holy Cross • 2-4 • 4-7
Lafayette • 1-5 • 2-9
Georgetown • 0-6 • 3-8
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Current Members: Butler University, Davidson College, University of Dayton, Drake University, Jacksonville University, Marist College, Morehead State University, University of San Diego, and Stetson University.
1971: South Carolina leaves the ACC
1978: Georgia Tech is invited to the ACC
1978: The Big East is formed … and immediately makes a big mistake
1989: Penn State joins the Big Ten
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1990: The Big East Football Conference is formed
1991: The Metro on life support
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1999: ACC expansion (round 1), and VT heads to the Big East
Revisiting the failed 1999 ACC expansion
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