Add Dayton and VCU

[Bill Marsh]

Creighton is competing against Nebraska.

And winning... : )

Exactly.

When Xavier and Dayton were in the same conference, Xavier was winning that battle. I don't know who's considered to be winning that ne now, but Dayton is certainly stronger and their attendance is great. Providence is stronger,

[_lh]

Well i guess jaxalum has sealed the business case closed for a conference considering schools in close proximity. The ACC might want to reconsider the whole Tobacco Road notion.

That's completely different. We are talking about adding teams to an already successful conference compared to when the ACC was originally formed. Not the same. The BE is now formed again with 10 solid teams. You only add it if makes sense. No available school makes sense.

If Wake Forest was in the A10, would NC or Duke want to add Wake to the ACC? Doubtful. Georgetown doesn't want GW in the BE, Providence doesn't want URI in the BE. Villanova doesn't want St. Joe's in the BE. UC didn't want XU in the BE. It is not strange that XU fans would not now want UC or UD in the BE.

UCONN, ND, Kansas and Gonzaga are the only programs that would be no brainer additions. None of those are realistic or current options for a number of reasons. There is no value in adding anyone else.

[Bill Marsh]

Well i guess jaxalum has sealed the business case closed for a conference considering schools in close proximity. The ACC might want to reconsider the whole Tobacco Road notion.

That's completely different. We are talking about adding teams to an already successful conference compared to when the ACC was originally formed. Not the same. The BE is now formed again with 10 solid teams. You only add it if makes sense. No available school makes sense.

If Wake Forest was in the A10, would NC or Duke want to add Wake to the ACC? Doubtful. Georgetown doesn't want GW in the BE, Providence doesn't want URI in the BE. Villanova doesn't want St. Joe's in the BE. UC didn't want XU in the BE. It is not strange that XU fans would not now want UC or UD in the BE.

UCONN, ND, Kansas and Gonzaga are the only programs that would be no brainer additions. None of those are realistic or current options for a number of reasons. There is no value in adding anyone else.

Providence fans would take exception to the addition of UConn being a no brainer the same way that X fans take exception to Dayton. The 2 schools are only an hour apart and historically PC and URI have both recruited stars from CT.

I doubt that Butler fans would welcome ND either.

[_lh]

Maybe and if they did, XU fans would support them but UCONN and ND would be huge additions that would "move the needle" where UD moves nothing.

[HoosierPal]

I doubt that Butler fans would welcome ND either.

Why not? They would be a great addition. Never gonna happen, but no fear from Indy.

[Fieldhouse Flyer]

Right now, every other member school has a "BIg East" monopoly on their particular recruiting territory. The closest is X and Butler, who happen to engage in recruiting wars for many of the same kids, and we are only two hours apart.

The concept of 'recruiting territory' disappeared about the same time that college basketball teams began using airplanes to fly to away games. To wit:

Xavier 2017 Commitments

Paul Scruggs - Napa, CA
Kentrevious Jones - Macon, GA
Elias Harden - Mableton, GA
Naji Marshall - Greenbelt, VA
Jared Ridder - Springfield, MO

Butler 2017 Commitments

Kyle Young –Massillon, OH
Jerald Butler – Hollywood, FL
Christian David – Saxtons River, VT
Cooper Neese – Cloverdale, IN

Dayton 2017 Commitments

Nahziah Carter – Rochester, NY
McKinley Wright – Champlin, MN
Jordan Pierce – Scotch Plains, NJ
Jordan Davis – Irmo, SC
Kostas Antetokounmpo – Whitefish Bay, WI *
Matej Svoboda – Czech Republic **

* HS Class of 2016 recruit who redshirted 2016-17 season per NCAA clearinghouse ruling. He will be a 19-year old freshman with 4 years of eligibility.
** Amateur who has played the last 3 seasons for CEZ Nymburk (a professional team). He will be a 21-year old freshman with 4 years of eligibility.

[Edrick]

Notre Dame is pretty much a non-entity in college basketball recruiting central Indiana. They probably end up intersecting Syracuse or Providence more than Butler or Xavier. Central Indiana is going to be Indiana, Purdue, Michigan, Louisville, Michigan State, Kentucky, etc -- or the best programs in the country.

It is also why Butler recruits a lot in the deep south, which is underserved to an extent opposite that Indianapolis is overserved.

[Irishdawg]

Providence fans would take exception to the addition of UConn being a no brainer the same way that X fans take exception to Dayton. The 2 schools are only an hour apart and historically PC and URI have both recruited stars from CT.

I doubt that Butler fans would welcome ND either.

As HoosierPal said, I'd welcome ND. Good program that would certainly move the needle more Nationally. Heck, within Indiana itself, ND probably has the weakest fan support out of the 4 major programs, as is evidenced every year during the Crossroads Classic.

[cujaysfan]

add babson college and augustana

they're powerhouse d3 programs

at what point is this expansion topic beaten completely into the ground?

[EMT]

Well i guess jaxalum has sealed the business case closed for a conference considering schools in close proximity. The ACC might want to reconsider the whole Tobacco Road notion.

That's completely different. We are talking about adding teams to an already successful conference compared to when the ACC was originally formed. Not the same. The BE is now formed again with 10 solid teams. You only add it if makes sense. No available school makes sense.

If Wake Forest was in the A10, would NC or Duke want to add Wake to the ACC? Doubtful. Georgetown doesn't want GW in the BE, Providence doesn't want URI in the BE. Villanova doesn't want St. Joe's in the BE. UC didn't want XU in the BE. It is not strange that XU fans would not now want UC or UD in the BE.

UCONN, ND, Kansas and Gonzaga are the only programs that would be no brainer additions. None of those are realistic or current options for a number of reasons. There is no value in adding anyone else.

Providence fans would take exception to the addition of UConn being a no brainer the same way that X fans take exception to Dayton. The 2 schools are only an hour apart and historically PC and URI have both recruited stars from CT.

I doubt that Butler fans would welcome ND either.

Providence would have no problem with UConn. If they had a problem with UConn, Dave Gavitt wouldn't have invited them in the 1st place.