Bracketology '17

[anXUfan]

Also I would imagine if X ends up in Dayton for a play-in, then they can't expect much hospitality from the locals.

I'm kind of 50/50 on this. How was the crowd when they lost to NC State a few years ago? I'd think enough Xavier fans would make it close to a neutral court atmosphere.

I was there. Dayton fans were cheering against Xavier. Tickets for X fans were not plentiful. Bad situation.

Maybe now that time has passed it would be different.

[DudeAnon]

Also I would imagine if X ends up in Dayton for a play-in, then they can't expect much hospitality from the locals.

I'm kind of 50/50 on this. How was the crowd when they lost to NC State a few years ago? I'd think enough Xavier fans would make it close to a neutral court atmosphere.

I was there. Dayton fans were cheering against Xavier. Tickets for X fans were not plentiful. Bad situation.

Maybe now that time has passed it would be different.

Their fans actually heckled the team during practice as well.

That being said, back then UD fans hated X more than they loved UD. Now they are actually good so hopefully they have grown up.

[JohnW22]

Also I would imagine if X ends up in Dayton for a play-in, then they can't expect much hospitality from the locals.

I'm kind of 50/50 on this. How was the crowd when they lost to NC State a few years ago? I'd think enough Xavier fans would make it close to a neutral court atmosphere.

I was there. Dayton fans were cheering against Xavier. Tickets for X fans were not plentiful. Bad situation.

Maybe now that time has passed it would be different.

They were cheering against Xavier but it wasn't bad at all. At most points it was hardly noticeable. But I don't think it is as big of deal to them anymore. If Xavier does play in Dayton which I expect it will just be like any other tournament game.

[kayako]

Tickets for X fans were not plentiful. Bad situation.

That's interesting. Are you suggesting foul play by the host school? Maybe the sudden nature of the First Four scheduling allows them to hoard most of the tickets?

[Fieldhouse Flyer]

Joe Lunardi’s Bracketology – ESPN – Tuesday March 7, 2017

First Four game at UD Arena: #12 USC vs. #12 Xavier

ON THE BUBBLE

Last Four Byes
Providence
Marquette
Syracuse
Vanderbilt

Last Four In
Xavier
Wake Forest
USC
Illinois State

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Tickets for X fans were not plentiful. Bad situation.

That's interesting. Are you suggesting foul play by the host school? Maybe the sudden nature of the First Four scheduling allows them to hoard most of the tickets?

I don’t know about that. I also don’t know how many ‘block tickets’ are allocated to each of the eight schools participating in the First Four. I suspect that it is relatively few. But this all appears to be above board:

NCAA 2017 First Four Tickets - Dayton – Official NCAA/Dayton Flyers webpage

NCAA 2017 First Four Tickets - Dayton – Ticket Reseller (trading under the name 'University of Dayton Arena Tickets')

We are a resale marketplace, not the University of Dayton Arena box office or venue. Ticket prices may exceed face value. This site is not owned by, operated by, or affiliated with University of Dayton Arena.

....................................................... UD Arena Seating Chart ................................................

It could well be the case that by the time the eight First Four teams are announced on Selection Sunday (March 12th), the Dayton-area locals have purchased most or all of the tickets that were not specifically allocated to the eight participating schools.

[BEwannabe]

Xavier to Dayton is bull crap! The tournament cmt figures things out all the time for what they want to do. A few years ago they made UD a 4 seed so ND could play in Indianapolis as a 5 seed when just the opposite should've happened.

But as far as the fans go in Dayton next week. The hecklers for X's open practice were 3-4 UD students. There is an above the fold front page news story! Let's skip class and go heckle X and make national news!

The crowd in Dayton next week is some season ticket holders but a lot of seats are First Four event sponsors. The First Four happens in Dayton because the community supports the event and while I'm not sure how many major corporate sponsors there are there is more than just 1 or 2 so they all have tickets in their corporate deal. So there are no students, some season ticket holders, corporate sponsor ticket holders, general admission and team allotments and then I think 500-1000 tickets for the airmen stationed at Wright Patterson Airbase which is basically in UD's backyard.

So it's not a typical UD crowd, now I will tell you somehow versus Boise the Flyer Faithful found tickets at the last minute because that place was rocking like few times in its history but the Flyer Faithful aren't going out of their way to buy tickets to watch Xavier. That's just a ridiculous notion.

But the thought of X having to travel up I75 to play in the UD Arena is just not right from a preparation standpoint. Why should X even have to consider what reaction they'll get in Dayton. When Michigan steps on the field at Ohio Stadium they get booed and the Wolverines get booed in Dayton as well, it's just how it is. If X plays in Dayton next week, without hesitation I will tell you when they enter the court from their tunnel they'll be booed. But that's probably the extent of it except when Chris Mack is introduced, and Chris knows he'll draw some boos.

[kayako]

the Dayton-area locals have purchased most or all of the tickets that were not specifically allocated to the eight participating schools.

Yeah, it was a brain dead question on my part. Of course most of the tickets were already in the hands of the locals long before the teams are announced.

[stever20]

Xavier to Dayton is bull crap! The tournament cmt figures things out all the time for what they want to do. A few years ago they made UD a 4 seed so ND could play in Indianapolis as a 5 seed when just the opposite should've happened.

But as far as the fans go in Dayton next week. The hecklers for X's open practice were 3-4 UD students. There is an above the fold front page news story! Let's skip class and go heckle X and make national news!

The crowd in Dayton next week is some season ticket holders but a lot of seats are First Four event sponsors. The First Four happens in Dayton because the community supports the event and while I'm not sure how many major corporate sponsors there are there is more than just 1 or 2 so they all have tickets in their corporate deal. So there are no students, some season ticket holders, corporate sponsor ticket holders, general admission and team allotments and then I think 500-1000 tickets for the airmen stationed at Wright Patterson Airbase which is basically in UD's backyard.

So it's not a typical UD crowd, now I will tell you somehow versus Boise the Flyer Faithful found tickets at the last minute because that place was rocking like few times in its history but the Flyer Faithful aren't going out of their way to buy tickets to watch Xavier. That's just a ridiculous notion.

But the thought of X having to travel up I75 to play in the UD Arena is just not right from a preparation standpoint. Why should X even have to consider what reaction they'll get in Dayton. When Michigan steps on the field at Ohio Stadium they get booed and the Wolverines get booed in Dayton as well, it's just how it is. If X plays in Dayton next week, without hesitation I will tell you when they enter the court from their tunnel they'll be booed. But that's probably the extent of it except when Chris Mack is introduced, and Chris knows he'll draw some boos.

I don't know how you can say it's bull crap. Xavier has played themselves into this situation with all their injuries etc. Since Feb 4, the only team Xavier has beat is DePaul. So Xavier has played themselves into probably being one of the last 4 teams in the tourney. And the first 4 is always at Dayton. You don't like it Xavier, than don't lose all those games. Xavier shouldn't get a pass into the main field just because their old rival is hosting the first 4. That's just moronic.

[Bill Marsh]

Isn't it considered an advantage to play close to home?

[stever20]

so looking at Lunardi's latest bracket- here's the big games for today-

last team with a bye Syracuse- plays Miami
4th team in (first in FF) Xavier- plays DePaul
3rd team in Wake Forest- plays Va Tech
2nd team in USC- plays Washington
5th team out Clemson- plays Duke
7th team out California- plays Oregon St

So a HUGE day for the bubble- especially for those that are thought to be in the tourney right now.

Win or season is over for Xavier, USC, Clemson, and Cal.
Win and in tourney for sure for Syracuse and Wake Forest.
Clemson with a chance to really move up the chain with a win here. I think they would get past everyone in the 1st 4 teams out group and then probably pass Illinois St as well if they can beat Duke.
For Xavier and USC win really doesn't clinch anything but maintains status quo- and sets up game tomorrow that would clinch the spot.