There is no way Villanova is upgrading football at this point unless it was because they were asked to join a power conference. No way we would undertake that cost and risk so we could band together with UCONN and JMU. That is not even in the realm of possibility. Big East is working out great for Nova and I love this league, we aren't leaving unless we were approached by a football 5 conference and they wanted us to upgrade in football. Honestly, as I said in an earlier post I would much rather the bIg east schools all start playing FCS level football and we can play against each other. I would enjoy going to games against other big east schools. Pursuing a FBS championship as a small private university is non-sensiscal. UCONN is having a disastrous time of it as the state flagship school in one of the wealthiest states in the country. And BTW, I have seen scenarios where Texas and Oklahoma go to the PAC or Texas to the PAC and OK to the B1G. What does that do to then projected conferences?
UConn will heavily explore joining another league in the offseason: The Huskies have battled injuries this season en route to a 10-12 record, but their overall cache as a program also isn’t quite what it was when they were operating in the old Big East. Kevin Ollie led UConn to a national title in 2014, but the Huskies’ brand still belongs on a bigger stage. Sources have told FanRag Sports that UConn has consistently looked into joining the Big East as a basketball only member as long as it could find another home for its football program.
Dave wrote:There is no way Villanova is upgrading football at this point unless it was because they were asked to join a power conference. No way we would undertake that cost and risk so we could band together with UCONN and JMU. That is not even in the realm of possibility. Big East is working out great for Nova and I love this league, we aren't leaving unless we were approached by a football 5 conference and they wanted us to upgrade in football. Honestly, as I said in an earlier post I would much rather the bIg east schools all start playing FCS level football and we can play against each other. I would enjoy going to games against other big east schools. Pursuing a FBS championship as a small private university is non-sensiscal. UCONN is having a disastrous time of it as the state flagship school in one of the wealthiest states in the country. And BTW, I have seen scenarios where Texas and Oklahoma go to the PAC or Texas to the PAC and OK to the B1G. What does that do to then projected conferences?
Nova pays $6 to $10M per year for FCS football. It is a guaranteed assured loss. There is not an upside for revenue, and no real TV money available to FCS.
So the real risk is in doing nothing, and eating that loss every year with no upside. Nova already spends near MAC expenditures on its FCS program.
The Big East is a good home for Nova. It just needs to find a home for football.
Pursuing a FBS championship for Nova would be non-sensical, but you can play at that level and build a program without thinking you are going to contend for national championships. But "Pursuing a FBS championship as a small private university is non-sensical" is too broad. At least Notre Dame, Stanford, Miami and TCU think they have a chance. BC, Northwestern, Vandy, Duke, and Wake may also disagree.
UConn no doubt has had misfortunes in realignment. That is why they are in the discussion.
If Texas and OK bolt, the Big 12 will probably pick up Houston and Cincy. That is one of the reasons for the AAC to add 2 and keep UConn football proactively instead of reactively.
That first group of schools certainly do not qualify as small private schools (well maybe Miami not sure of their enrollment) but as far as your second list, Yes it is in the realm of possibility for Vandy and Northwestern to one day compete for a title, but that is as much a function of the conference they are in as anything else.
BC is permanently dead to me and I'm confident neither they, or Duke or WF are ever winning a national title. We may differ in opinion on having a program without ever competing for a national title. I see no point. It's like starting off every NFL season and you know your team will never win.
Looking at it from your financial point of view in reverse. If Duke or WF downgraded to FCS and joined a conference like the big east, what would the increased TV revenue be for that conference in basketball and what would their cost savings on football be. Would the conference wide benefits of an association of like minded academic schools bring more to the table than just money. Why in that scenario would ND not want in and keep football independent. I love college sports and maybe it is only about money but I view money as a means to an end and the end result I want is the best overall university.
What do you make of rumblings of UNC and UVA to B1G eventually due to academics?
What do you make of rumblings of UNC and UVA to B1G eventually due to academics?
I worry that if lightning does strike and we are presented with a great opportunity we won't be able to take it.
The ACC was founded on May 8, 1953 in Greensboro, North Carolina at the Sedgefield Country Club by seven universities located in the South Atlantic States. These seven charter members were: Clemson, Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, North Carolina State, South Carolina, and Wake Forest. Previously members of the Southern Conference, they left partially due to that league's ban on post-season football play.
On Wednesday, February 8th crussomd wrote:
If we are so lucky that the ACC implodes down the road maybe we can hope to have Duke and Wake fall into our laps.
On Thursday February 9th crussomd wrote:
Duke and WF in the ACC as high standard academic private schools stick out like sore thumbs in those conferences.
On Friday Feb 10th crussomd wrote:
If Duke or WF downgraded to FCS and joined a conference like the big east, what would the increased TV revenue be for that conference in basketball and what would their cost savings on football be.
The extended grant of rights makes it virtually impossible financially for any school to leave the league in the next two decades.
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