BEwannabe wrote:you folks that don't think travel is a big deal either a) don't know how far away the Pacific NW is or b) don't know any d1 non basketball/football student athletes. Relevant to point a, Spokane is further away from Omaha than Omaha is from NYC and travel from Pacific NW to East Coast is a lost day, so it doesn't in any sense come close to NYC to Miami FL which would leave you travel weary after a flight home from an evening game but you would be in your own bed that night. Relevant to point b, family friend played soccer for the Musketeers and the bus trips home is freshman year after games he didn't whiff a minute of playing time almost did him in. It''s something most have no clue but it's real long bus rides for young kids aren't fun and that bus trip was only from Univ of Virginia to Cincinnati.
kayako wrote:As for Nova, we don't have a ton of flexibility anyway, as long as we're engaged in this ridiculous big 5 commitment every year.
18 Big East games
4 Big 5 games
4 Exempt tournament games
Gavitt Challenge some years
That leaves like 4 games left for local cupcakes, special games (Jimmy V), personal favors (Hofstra), etc. It also takes away our ability to schedule on the fly, say h&h with teams like Virginia or Connecticut, where Nova actually recruits in.
Hard to be happy about yet another conference vs conference commitment, or even a new conference mate all the way out in Spokane. Honestly I don't see how it benefits Big East teams, because there are equally great programs much closer than Gonzaga.
Gonzaga's dream scenario may not be to be the only west coast school in the Big East. No thanks!
kayako wrote:As for Nova, we don't have a ton of flexibility anyway, as long as we're engaged in this ridiculous big 5 commitment every year.
18 Big East games
4 Big 5 games
4 Exempt tournament games
Gavitt Challenge some years
That leaves like 4 games left for local cupcakes . . .
Bill Marsh wrote:billyjack wrote:2016 Attendance Averages For Various Teams:
Again, just to get this down on paper:
I bolded any number at 5,000 or above.
What's the deal with Siena anyway? We walked their campus last summer. Really nice, north of Albany. Small campus. Small student body. Somehow they get 6k+ to the Times Union. UAlbany is closer to downtown and gets half that.
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Went to the Siena-Manhattan game yesterday. Got into a conversation with a guy who is a SUNY Albany alum, so I asked him why Siena draws so much better than U Albany does up there. He shrugged and said it's just the local culture. Maybe similar to how PC basketball evolved over the years as compared with URI?
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I seem to recall an article in a Nebraska paper with quotes from the Zags AD about making a BE membership work. This was very early after the 7 left. Can anyone find the link? I can't find it.
2. As we head into the The Summer of Conference Realignment, Part 2: One Year Later, it’s becoming clearer that GU isn’t going anywhere.
But Gonzaga Athletic Director Mike Roth says it’s not his fault. When the Big East Conference reformed in July 2013, he had GU Athletics ready to move to the new Big East along with the other “Catholic Seven” schools. He recognized that GU would be a perfect fit in every way with the other private, Catholic, similar-size, liberal arts schools from that conference.
One single problem threw a wrench in the gears: geography. As much as a program can request to join a conference, it eventually has to be invited by the conference, Roth said.
Unfortunately for GU, the Big East programs were not willing to fly their sports teams five or six hours to Spokane dozens of times every year, even if Roth was.
Roth says he likes to say that the only way GU would be accepted into the Big East is if teleportation is invented.
Anytime teleportation enters a discussion of conference realignment, things aren’t looking good.
GU looks to be stuck in the ho-hum WCC. While it won’t do us any favors in terms of men’s or women’s basketball, at least the Zags won’t be constantly flying to the Northeast for every away game. That might qualify as low-level silver lining.
On March 25, 2016 admin wrote:
According to Creighton AD Bruce Rasmussen, a discussion about possible conference expansion is going to happen in May.Creighton athletic director Bruce Rasmussen, known to Wichita State from the Bluejays’ days in the Missouri Valley Conference, said he’s pushing for Big East expansion from 10 to 12 teams and that WSU and Gonzaga would be good fits.
Rasmussen was careful to say that his opinion in these matters might not carry much weight, but that the Big East presidents and athletic directors have agreed to discuss the possibility of expansion at the conference’s annual meetings in May.
“As a part of the strategic planning exercise the Big East Conference is currently undertaking, the topic of expansion is an agenda item,” Rasmussen said in a text message. “While I do not sense a great appetite currently by Big East presidents for expansion, I personally would be an advocate for adding Gonzaga and Wichita State.”
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gosports1 wrote:Bill Marsh wrote:billyjack wrote:2016 Attendance Averages For Various Teams:
Again, just to get this down on paper:
I bolded any number at 5,000 or above.
What's the deal with Siena anyway? We walked their campus last summer. Really nice, north of Albany. Small campus. Small student body. Somehow they get 6k+ to the Times Union. UAlbany is closer to downtown and gets half that.
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Went to the Siena-Manhattan game yesterday. Got into a conversation with a guy who is a SUNY Albany alum, so I asked him why Siena draws so much better than U Albany does up there. He shrugged and said it's just the local culture. Maybe similar to how PC basketball evolved over the years as compared with URI?
Siena has been D1 longer, that might be a factor. maybe CYO plays a part? It seems to me that the only sport that almost every catholic elementary school sponsors is BB. Maybe young catholics are groomed to be BB fans? I m curious about what % of students at Siena played varsity sports in HS compared to students at Albany. Is there a difference? I remember some stat about PC that a vast majority ( I don't remember actual number) played varsity sports in HS. Also a high number participate (d) in intramural sports at PC. I am familiar with Siena. The student body, present and past, is similar to that of BE schools
billyjack wrote:gosports1 wrote:Siena has been D1 longer, that might be a factor. maybe CYO plays a part? It seems to me that the only sport that almost every catholic elementary school sponsors is BB. Maybe young catholics are groomed to be BB fans? I m curious about what % of students at Siena played varsity sports in HS compared to students at Albany. Is there a difference? I remember some stat about PC that a vast majority ( I don't remember actual number) played varsity sports in HS. Also a high number participate (d) in intramural sports at PC. I am familiar with Siena. The student body, present and past, is similar to that of BE schools
- Do you know if Siena fans travel well?
- Also, if 6k Siena fans show up for a typical home game against the MAAC, can we expect twice that amount for a Big East schedule?
Barley wrote:billyjack wrote:gosports1 wrote:Siena has been D1 longer, that might be a factor. maybe CYO plays a part? It seems to me that the only sport that almost every catholic elementary school sponsors is BB. Maybe young catholics are groomed to be BB fans? I m curious about what % of students at Siena played varsity sports in HS compared to students at Albany. Is there a difference? I remember some stat about PC that a vast majority ( I don't remember actual number) played varsity sports in HS. Also a high number participate (d) in intramural sports at PC. I am familiar with Siena. The student body, present and past, is similar to that of BE schools
- Do you know if Siena fans travel well?
- Also, if 6k Siena fans show up for a typical home game against the MAAC, can we expect twice that amount for a Big East schedule?
If there could be less than a 0% chance of a school being added, I'd put Siena in that category.
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