billyjack wrote:stever20 wrote:what is so funny about it- if UConn does become available- they are a 100% lock. Fox would pretty much demand it- and could grease the wheels to make it happen- like pay UConn to go Indy in football.
Fox and the Big East are partners, and would make any decision together based on how sensible it is. No demands or arm-twisting are necessary like you're implying.
Having said that, a scenario where Fox pays UConn to go indy in football with BE hoops might make sense for everyone. It would screw ESPN while further boosting our ratings. I'm not sure UConn has big enough cojones nor are they daring enough to pull something like indy football off though.
And having said that, looking back, the 10 of us showed some serious, huge, big time brass stones to take the leap to FS1 and break away from the football schools. Amirite?
Bluejay wrote:The conference brand certainly does take a hit if a school comes and goes. It makes the conference look unstable to the outside world. Right now the Big East's biggest strength is the stability. Stability sends a message of strength and garners respect. Right now we do not have a single member looking to leave and there are several schools that would love the chance to join.
Maryland's departure from the ACC made the entire ACC look weak. It also caused several other schools to start looking for exit plans, cash grabs or dream about better opportunities. Departures create the perception of instability to the general public and among the fanbases of the schools in the conference. When everyone starts thinking that anyone else could be leaving, schools start looking for options for themselves instead of thinking about the conference as a whole. That attitude is exactly what killed the earlier version of the Big East. We do not need that scent of desperation.
As a Creighton fan, I have no ax to grind when it comes to UConn. I am not bitter over past dealings and am not jealous. It is true that I think they are naive when it comes to realignment (teams in the northeast do not, IMO, completely understand the obsession that schools in the south and midwest have with football and the corresponding financial investment related thereto), but that does not color my perception of adding them. Essentially the idea of putting large exit fees and entrance fees in place sounds nice, but I don't think the bribe is worth it regardless of the fees generated.
ivet wrote:hoyahooligan wrote:
Can't believe anyone is voting no on this!
It's a no brainer.
Does adding Uconn help the conference? Yes absolutely.
Would them coming and then leaving again hurt the conference? No not at all.
Do we need Uconn? No not at all, but that's not the question.
I think people who don't want them added are either still mad about the break up or are jealous of Uconn.
I could care less about the whole like minded institutions crap. This is purely a competitive and financial decision and adding Uconn helps with both.
So you're OK with the Big East being a stepping stone for these institution? While we're at it, lets add other schools that would benefit the conference in the short term until they get their footing.
Wichita State
Does adding WSU help the conference? Yes absolutely.
Would them coming and then leaving again hurt the conference? No not at all.
Do we need Wichita State? No not at all, but that's not the question.
VCU
Does adding VCU help the conference? Yes absolutely.
Would them coming and then leaving again hurt the conference? No not at all.
Do we need Wichita State? No not at all, but that's not the question.
Cincinnati
Does adding UC help the conference? Yes absolutely.
Would them coming and then leaving again hurt the conference? No not at all.
Do we need Wichita State? No not at all, but that's not the question.
I'd rather pick up Dayton than UConn. At least they want to be here and be committed to the success of the conference instead of their own well being. If we want to be treated like a power conference than we need to act like a power conference
UConn needs a Come to Jesus Moment. They think they have enough clout to dictate where they want to go. If that was the case they would be in either the ACC or B12 already.
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