Fox Sports 1 Update

[NovaBall]

And Clemson's guy said 80%. Swofford said 70-80%.

Also- the numbers you quoted are OVERALL revenue per school, not the TV money.......

Bottom line, if the 80% is right, the Big East is doing very well for themselves money wise in basketball.. I've never doubted that. But look at the exposure the others get. Sorry but being on ESPN at least some means a LOT. Do you think the ACC would trade the exposure they get on ESPN vs what we get on FS1? I sure as hell don't think so....

Would Duke or North Carolina or louisville trade? No

Would any other ACC school trade? Probably. We are getting more exposure than the rest of the aCC a outside of the big few. Especially when you consider our big fox games.

That's why syracuse and pitt are struggling so much.

[NovaBall]

Guys, Stever hearts espn so much he used to argue that big Monday games were bigger events than CBS national or big fox games. He is clueless.

[stever20]

this past Big Monday drew 1.457 million viewers and 1.214 million viewers for the 2 games.
The Georgetown/Butler game last Saturday drew 1.1 million viewers....

2 games on Saturday on ESPN beat Georgetown/Butler.
3 more games on Saturday on ESPN beat Villanova/Marquette.

Heck- Villanova was in only about 147k viewer homes in their game vs Xavier on FS1, than they were on Saturday vs Marquette on Fox.... Let that settle with you some...

Bottom line, being on Network TV means a whole hell of a lot less than it does in college football. Wait until a few weeks from now. Last year 7 of the top 10 rated games for the entire season were on cable. And the 3 games that were on CBS- 2 of them were the Big Ten tourney. Of the 7 games that were on ESPN- 2 of them were the ACC and SEC tourney finals. So of the top 6 rated regular season games, 5 were ESPN.

It may be a bigger event to the students for a game to be on network TV, but being on network TV doesn't guarantee at all whatsoever a better rating than being on ESPN. It NEVER has in college basketball. Do I need to remind you the best rated game of ALL TIME in college basketball- Georgetown/St John's, 1985, was on ESPN?

[gosports1]

Exposure is great to have but more money IMO is better for the long haul. The extra money the BE teams get from FOX that they would not have gotten from ESPN, can be invested in the athletic departments. Improve facilities, hire better coaches etc which should attract better athletes. That should lead to increased attendance at games, which in turn could lead to increased interest for the games to be televised.
If being on ESPN is the end all be all, why aren't all the schools that are featured on it, national powerhouses? (or in most cases, even regional ones)? I doubt anyone is going to commit to a school, like BC or NC State for example, solely because they are featured on ESPN and Villanova or Georgetown aren't

[adoraz]

Let's just agree on this... Big East is getting more exposure this year. Between higher rated FS1/Fox games to the Big East finals being on Fox. I think even Stever can acknowledge that the Big East is in a better situation now than it has been at any point over the last 3 years.

Personally I think the TV contract is turning out to be pretty good. Yeah Fox Sports Live struggles but if the channel can get over half a million for some Big East games and over a million for some Fox/CBS games that's pretty impressive. The sheer volume of games being televised makes up for any difference of individual ratings on ESPN. Yeah a game like Providence vs Creighton on FS1 will be out drawn by whatever ESPN is playing but that game was never going to be on ESPN (or ESPN 2) in the first place.

[Piratefan]

FS1 is brand new whereas espn is decades old. The gap will narrow each year. No one should be surprised by the chasm.

[MUPanther]

Ranked teams in Cal/Arizona on ESPN, only got 530k. Low number for an ESPN game. Pac-12 has been low all year. Arizona/Utah last Saturday got over 700k after the lead in game was over a million on ESPN.

PAC-12 fans are pretty fairweather in general. Only Arizona really packs their arena game in and game out. If you watch other Pac-12 games, most of the time, the arena is like half full. They just don't generate the same amount of interest as the other power conferences IMO. This is probably also why the PAC-12 network is a flop.

It's a different world on the west coast. Also explains why the Pac-12 Networks is having major problems.

[DudeAnon]

A lot of people have ESPN turned on by default. We don't have that luxury. We really need to make some runs in the tourney plus maintain top 25 status. We have seen the numbers than can be had with good teams. So lets just root for that and stop torturing ourselves by comparing us to ESPN considering we are in year 3 of 12 of this deal.

[NovaBall]

this past Big Monday drew 1.457 million viewers and 1.214 million viewers for the 2 games.
The Georgetown/Butler game last Saturday drew 1.1 million viewers....

2 games on Saturday on ESPN beat Georgetown/Butler.
3 more games on Saturday on ESPN beat Villanova/Marquette.

Heck- Villanova was in only about 147k viewer homes in their game vs Xavier on FS1, than they were on Saturday vs Marquette on Fox.... Let that settle with you some...

Bottom line, being on Network TV means a whole hell of a lot less than it does in college football. Wait until a few weeks from now. Last year 7 of the top 10 rated games for the entire season were on cable. And the 3 games that were on CBS- 2 of them were the Big Ten tourney. Of the 7 games that were on ESPN- 2 of them were the ACC and SEC tourney finals. So of the top 6 rated regular season games, 5 were ESPN.

It may be a bigger event to the students for a game to be on network TV, but being on network TV doesn't guarantee at all whatsoever a better rating than being on ESPN. It NEVER has in college basketball. Do I need to remind you the best rated game of ALL TIME in college basketball- Georgetown/St John's, 1985, was on ESPN?

Blah blah blah

The fact that you would compare a big Monday game to a big fox Saturday game shows what a fool you are

I've seen my team play dozens and dozens of big Monday games. There is simply no comparison. P
But you are an AAC troll who has never seen your team play either, so you have no perspective at all.

[FenwayFriar]

A lot of people have ESPN turned on by default. We don't have that luxury. We really need to make some runs in the tourney plus maintain top 25 status. We have seen the numbers than can be had with good teams. So lets just root for that and stop torturing ourselves by comparing us to ESPN considering we are in year 3 of 12 of this deal.

This is very true. Think about any bar or pub in the country when there isn't a major sporting event on. It's most likely on ESPN regardless of what is on. Most bars would rather have a crappy NBA or college bball game on ESPN than monster truck racing on FS1. Only when FS1 starts to consistently have live sporting events on every night of the week this will have the potential to change. We need to stop comparing FS1 to ESPN. It's like comparing Disney World to Six Flags. You can have your fun at both, but you're only planning a vacation around one.