Mack/Louisville

[Xudash]

Pretty interesting thread on the realignment board about Louisville and wondering if Pitino is gone after this year....

Mack's name came up. Folks from here came on there saying they thought Mack would stay put.

I think it's really interesting. I do get that Mack is from X, and he's got them top 5 and recruiting well.

my question though is this. Does Mack view it like this is the apex that Xavier can get to? If he does, I could see him leaving Xavier quite frankly- not for the type of jobs that have been open, but for one of the 7-8 top jobs(of which Louisville is definitely one of).

It would be interesting. Hopefully he doesn't leave- but I don't think you could discount the possibility either.

I can. Mack is different from Matta and Miller. He is better paid, in a much better conference, and most importantly a Xavier product who is also from Cincinnati. He could leave some day, I suppose, but not for Louisville.

I'd be stunned if Louisville and Pitino parted ways. Mack may or may not be a candidate but I'm curious why you think the BE is a much better conference. I know we're all homers but I don't buy the whole much better than the ACC argument.

I believe the much better conference reference had to do with transitioning from the A10 to the Big East. It was not about comparing the ACC to the Big East.

And it is a fact that the Big East is much better than the A10, as evidenced by the money, media package, MSG deal and the impact it has had on recruiting.

[thebigeXpress]

Mack is not going anywhere and I can't see Pitino going anywhere for, at least, 4 or 5 years. Regardless of what happens in the post season I believe he will be compensated very well. Like MOR says "pay the Man".

[HoosierPal]

Mack is not going anywhere and I can't see Pitino going anywhere for, at least, 4 or 5 years. Regardless of what happens in the post season I believe he will be compensated very well. Like MOR says "pay the Man".

It's a mess down there in Louisville right now, with the Board of Trustees, the University President and Pitino all involved in a political soap opera. And it's not just about the athletic scandals, its about a Vote of No Confidence for President Ramsey for a laundry list of issues. Who knows where this will end up, but Pitino may be forced out. Read the Courier Journal for more information.

[Xavier4036]

I think if he was going to stay, that would have been announced already quite frankly.

But you are usually wrong, Stever. Remember that thread we started with all of your predictions and statements of "fact" from last year - that in reality were just totally off the wall?

This thread about Chris Mack going to Louisville (a job that isn't even open) is what? Now 8 pages long. And started by Stever with probably 50% of the posts in this thread by Stever. Who allegedly is a Georgetown fan. Makes a lot of sense.....

By the way Stever, how did the AAAAC do tonight? I saw both UConn and UC lost. What a conference.

[stever20]

I think if he was going to stay, that would have been announced already quite frankly.

But you are usually wrong, Stever. Remember that thread we started with all of your predictions and statements of "fact" from last year - that in reality were just totally off the wall?

This thread about Chris Mack going to Louisville (a job that isn't even open) is what? Now 8 pages long. And started by Stever with probably 50% of the posts in this thread by Stever. Who allegedly is a Georgetown fan. Makes a lot of sense.....

By the way Stever, how did the AAAAC do tonight? I saw both UConn and UC lost. What a conference.

yeah losing to a team with the #10 RPI is so bad on the road. The AAC still has 4 teams in the 42-53 range of the RPI. It's not like these were upsets- they were both projected by KP.....

[mpwalsh8]

I think if he was going to stay, that would have been announced already quite frankly.

But you are usually wrong, Stever. Remember that thread we started with all of your predictions and statements of "fact" from last year - that in reality were just totally off the wall?

This thread about Chris Mack going to Louisville (a job that isn't even open) is what? Now 8 pages long. And started by Stever with probably 50% of the posts in this thread by Stever. Who allegedly is a Georgetown fan. Makes a lot of sense.....

By the way Stever, how did the AAAAC do tonight? I saw both UConn and UC lost. What a conference.

yeah losing to a team with the #10 RPI is so bad on the road. The AAC still has 4 teams in the 42-53 range of the RPI. It's not like these were upsets- they were both projected by KP.....

UConn didn't just lose to SMU. They weren't even competitive. I don't get UConn in the AAC. I would have expected UConn to own that league but they are in 4th or 5th place this season. That is a head scratcher to me. I've only seen a couple UConn games this year but in the few I've seen, they don't seem to play as a team very well. They certainly didn't last night. I think it was on CBS's College Basketball Insider they were saying the UConn-Cincinatti game in the AAC tourney may effectively be a play in game. That surprised me. I assumed UConn was in and Cincinatti was on the bubble but it sounds like UConn is not as solid as I thought but then again I didn't know they were that far down the AAC standings either.

[CoachK]

UConn didn't just lose to SMU. They weren't even competitive. I don't get UConn in the AAC. I would have expected UConn to own that league but they are in 4th or 5th place this season.

6th Place. In the AAC. For the 2nd year in a row.

[stever20]

UConn didn't just lose to SMU. They weren't even competitive. I don't get UConn in the AAC. I would have expected UConn to own that league but they are in 4th or 5th place this season.

6th Place. In the AAC. For the 2nd year in a row.

And still has a better than 50/50 chance to make the tourney.

[scoscox]

UConn didn't just lose to SMU. They weren't even competitive. I don't get UConn in the AAC. I would have expected UConn to own that league but they are in 4th or 5th place this season.

6th Place. In the AAC. For the 2nd year in a row.

And still has a better than 50/50 chance to make the tourney.

Very debateable

[scoscox]

The unique thing, is that some of us Xavier fans went to school with Chris. Shared classes, the bars, and beers with him. He is a Xavier/ Cincy guy and that can't be replaced. I'm pretty sure his dream is to take his school to the F4 and beat Louisville, Indiana, Ohio st. Not just leave X and Join them. Like all coaches he is a competitive MFkr!! Mark my words, He will stay at X for a few more years.

I agree with this, but money make make him change his mind who knows. I was surprised he looked so hard at cal and wake forest. those are lateral moves AT BEST. Also, I agree that I think Louisville is going to try to hang on to Pitino.

Finally, maybe Louisville's money makes Mack leave, but it's certainly not influenced by Xavier's ceiling anymore. I thought it was kind of a weak argument when Sean Miller left X, but obviously Arizona was historically more capable, but it's definitely a weak argument now. We've had sustained success, we're in the Big East, we're in the top 5 and arguably a strong contender for a national title. Down year or not, Xavier is still extremely good and recruiting well and has a growing national perception, which is something Xavier has been very slow in receiving. Kentucky and Duke will both be back with a vengeance next year, but 2 programs do not determine the level of everyone else's success. Xavier will still be extremely good. Why would anyone think you can't compete for one of the top spots in the country at Xavier anymore? It just doesn't make sense. That said, Louisville could throw a lot of money at him, so it's still possible from that respect. As a private school guy, it would be awful to see Mack go there.

Plenty of coaches have left X and X has only gotten better. I think it's ridiculous for a coach to think that the program at X is what is holding them back.