Mack/Louisville

[billyjack]

Then you could say that about basically every school outside of maybe 5.
"Louisville has the money to pry [your coach here] from [your school here]."
Doesn't apply to UCLA, Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana, UNC and Duke, maybe a couple of others like a guy in his hometown like Cooley, or at his alma mater like Mullin (or Mack, etc).

Also, forgot where I most recently read this (not here I don't think), but the biggest and most common strawman statement is "Today's Big East isn't as strong as the Old Big East..." Uhhh, no shit. And that's another statement that can be applied to every other current and former conference. "Today's ACC isn't as strong as the Old Big East..." See?

[stever20]

Then you could say that about basically every school outside of maybe 5.
"Louisville has the money to pry [your coach here] from [your school here]."
Doesn't apply to UCLA, Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana, UNC and Duke, maybe a couple of others like a guy in his hometown like Cooley, or at his alma mater like Mullin (or Mack, etc).

Also, forgot where I most recently read this (not here I don't think), but the biggest and most common strawman statement is "Today's Big East isn't as strong as the Old Big East..." Uhhh, no shit. And that's another statement that can be applied to every other current and former conference. "Today's ACC isn't as strong as the Old Big East..." See?

Except that coaches have left their alma mater before to go to one of the bigger jobs. It absolutely does happen. To act like it's impossible for him to leave is a joke. Him leaving for Louisville wouldn't be on the top 10000 list of most shocking coaches moves. Not even remotely close.

[NJRedman]

Folks that say Mack won't leave Xavier to me are similar to those from Wichita saying Marshall won't leave Wichita. A lot of hope...

The thing is, with jobs like Louisville, Indiana, Ohio St, etc.- those are the only ones that a guy like Mack would leave a great situation for. Until he's asked, you just don't know what he's going to say. Louisville does have a lot of plusses for him. You can't just blanket say that he's going to stay, because in the coaching profession, that's just not realistic.

Except you fail to realize that X is a much better job than Wichita. X is in a power conference with a great TV deal and more money than any conference outside the FB5. It's night and day stever, but you will never recognize that.

And Louisville IS an upgrade over Xavier. Louisville with their arena basically just prints money. If Louisville comes to Mack and offers him over double what he makes with X, It's not going to be an easy decision. And that would be realistically what could happen. Smart when he went to Texas got a 3 mil per year deal. I could easily see Louisville offering Mack 4 million. I know it sucks, but Xavier isn't a destination job. Louisville is a destination job.

I know Big East fans would hope that there's no chance he leaves, but in the coaching profession, and with a top 10 job possibly open, I think that's just a bit naïve. Of course there's a chance he goes. There's probably less than 10 jobs that could pry Mack away from X. This is one of them.

I know stever would hope that theres no chance that he stays, but in the coaching profession and with a top 5 team, I think it's just a bit naive. Of course there's a chance he stays.

No one is saying Louisville isn't a bigger program. Thats just you creating an argument no one is making. You can easily see a lot of things and most of the time those things don't happen. Need we go back and remind you of all the times you've used that phrase and things didn't go that way? It's a slow day at work, don't make me embarrass you.

Yes, Louisville could possibly land Mack IF Pitino even leaves this year. They could also go after Marshall who would definitely leave in a heartbeat. They could get him at a much cheaper rate and like I said allocate more money to FB.

[stever20]

The money it would take to land Marshall would be darn near the amount it would take to land Mack. Louisville wouldn't do what you're saying- settle for Marshall because it's a little bit cheaper. Louisville would go for their guy, period. If that guy is Mack, that's who they're going after. Money won't be a deciding factor.

[Omaha1]

The money it would take to land Marshall would be darn near the amount it would take to land Mack. Louisville wouldn't do what you're saying- settle for Marshall because it's a little bit cheaper. Louisville would go for their guy, period. If that guy is Mack, that's who they're going after. Money won't be a deciding factor.

Marshall makes $3.3M a year at Wichita State, thanks to the Koch brothers, after who their arena is named.

[NJRedman]

The money it would take to land Marshall would be darn near the amount it would take to land Mack. Louisville wouldn't do what you're saying- settle for Marshall because it's a little bit cheaper. Louisville would go for their guy, period. If that guy is Mack, that's who they're going after. Money won't be a deciding factor.

Since when did you become an expert on all thing Louisville that you can say for certain what they will or wont do? You are already acting like Pitino is gone and that Mack is their guy they want.

[stever20]

The money it would take to land Marshall would be darn near the amount it would take to land Mack. Louisville wouldn't do what you're saying- settle for Marshall because it's a little bit cheaper. Louisville would go for their guy, period. If that guy is Mack, that's who they're going after. Money won't be a deciding factor.

Since when did you become an expert on all thing Louisville that you can say for certain what they will or wont do? You are already acting like Pitino is gone and that Mack is their guy they want.

I really think if Pitino was coming back next year, that we would have heard it already. I really do.

And I'm not saying for sure that Mack would be their guy, but he would definitely be on their short list. It's what happens when you have a national coach of the year candidate.

I just think it's pretty idiotic to just blanket dismiss any possibility that Mack could leave. There's been far more shocking departures.

[NJRedman]

The money it would take to land Marshall would be darn near the amount it would take to land Mack. Louisville wouldn't do what you're saying- settle for Marshall because it's a little bit cheaper. Louisville would go for their guy, period. If that guy is Mack, that's who they're going after. Money won't be a deciding factor.

Since when did you become an expert on all thing Louisville that you can say for certain what they will or wont do? You are already acting like Pitino is gone and that Mack is their guy they want.

I really think if Pitino was coming back next year, that we would have heard it already. I really do.

And I'm not saying for sure that Mack would be their guy, but he would definitely be on their short list. It's what happens when you have a national coach of the year candidate.

I just think it's pretty idiotic to just blanket dismiss any possibility that Mack could leave. There's been far more shocking departures.

No one is saying he couldn't leave, we just are disagreeing that he would heavily consider leaving. Besides the money he has a really good thing going at X. Louisville is also about to get hit by the NCAA. Mack could very well us the UofL job to get a raise from X.

[Bluejay]

Gregg Marshall is a southern guy and has said he would like to return to a southern school.

WSU's two best players, and the guys that lead them on their historic runs the last few years, graduate this spring. The remaining guys are good enough to win the MVC, but are nowhere near the caliber of the two graduating guards. WSU will drop.

The other job to which Marshall was rumored, Indiana, suddenly looks like it won't have an opening at the end of this season after all.

If ever there was a time for Marshall to leave, this would be it.

No offense to Mack, but in comparing the resumes between Mack and Marshall, Marshall has accomplished more despite being in a lesser conference the last 3 years.

If I'm the AD at Louisville I offer Pitino money to Marshall and hope the Koch brothers don't match it. I hate Marshall and put up with his shit for a long time when we were in the MVC, but the dude can coach and recruit.

(Mack seems to show up on these lists every single season. I don't know if he has an agent doing that or what, but X really needs to step up and pay the guy market rate.)

[NJRedman]

Gregg Marshall is a southern guy and has said he would like to return to a southern school.

WSU's two best players, and the guys that lead them on their historic runs the last few years, graduate this spring. The remaining guys are good enough to win the MVC, but are nowhere near the caliber of the two graduating guards. WSU will drop.

The other job to which Marshall was rumored, Indiana, suddenly looks like it won't have an opening at the end of this season after all.

If ever there was a time for Marshall to leave, this would be it.

No offense to Mack, but in comparing the resumes between Mack and Marshall, Marshall has accomplished more despite being in a lesser conference the last 3 years.

If I'm the AD at Louisville I offer Pitino money to Marshall and hope the Koch brothers don't match it. I hate Marshall and put up with his shit for a long time when we were in the MVC, but the dude can coach and recruit.

(Mack seems to show up on these lists every single season. I don't know if he has an agent doing that or what, but X really needs to step up and pay the guy market rate.)

Even if the Koch brothers match it I still think he would leave. It's Louisville in the ACC which is a bigger stage and better chance at success than Wichita St in the MVC. Yes, I know he made a Final Four but so did many other mid-majors. Only one was able to turn their success into a better situation (Butler).