Dear B.E.

[stever20]

maybe enough talent- but no point guard. You have no point guard, you are going to struggle in college basketball, especially I'd say with the rules the way they've changed. They are 0-15 against top 110 level teams in conference play.

Also just can't shoot. Really exposed in the free throw shooting. They've had 8 losses by my count 10 points or less in conference play.... look at the cumulative FT shooting for those 8 games:
SJ 101-172 58.7%
opp 173-232 74.6%

so the opponents have made more ft than St John's even shot. And the difference in points is 62- or about 7.75 per game. And these were the 8 10 points or less losses.

He's clearly talking about next year when we will have a PG and shooters.

I was talking about the guy who said you guys had enough talent on the roster to win 4-5 conference games this year. I think that's wrong- you guys don't have a PG or the shooters to really compete- and it's shown in the 8 losses. 15.5 TO per game in the 8 closer conference losses.....

[milksteak]

St. John's has a longggggggg way to go to get to 15 wins.

What are you talking about? If we hit FT's this year we would be close to 15. Do you watch the games at all?

By my calculations, SJU's average margin in losses is 16.1. There's a little more going on there than failing to "hit FTs."

[NJRedman]

St. John's has a longggggggg way to go to get to 15 wins.

What are you talking about? If we hit FT's this year we would be close to 15. Do you watch the games at all?

By my calculations, SJU's average margin in losses is 16.1. There's a little more going on there than failing to "hit FTs."

Thats great but we aren't talking about point margin we're talking about individual games.

[stever20]

St. John's has a longggggggg way to go to get to 15 wins.

What are you talking about? If we hit FT's this year we would be close to 15. Do you watch the games at all?

By my calculations, SJU's average margin in losses is 16.1. There's a little more going on there than failing to "hit FTs."

very misleading though...
in 8 games, the average loss is 23.9 ppg.
in other 8 games the average loss is 6.9 ppg. In those games- SJ was 101-172 from the line- 58.7%, while opponents were 173-232 from the line- 74.6%. Difference in points there- 7.8 per game.

[SJUBBALL]

St. John's has a longggggggg way to go to get to 15 wins.

I think this thread is dumb but I think this post is dumb too. They will probably be close to 15 wins next year in fact I think they'll get there. They don't have a "longgggggg way to go"

UCLA, Kansas St., Arkansas, North Carolina St....

Those are some programs with about 15 wins right now. Maybe they'll finish with slightly more. SJU is completely in the toilet right now. I stand by what I said.

St. John's time will come, but I really doubt it will be next year.

They'll win 15+ games next year. It's not like the big east is going to be some powerhouse next year. It'll be Nova, Xavier, Seton Hall, and then everyone else.

[SJUBBALL]

maybe enough talent- but no point guard. You have no point guard, you are going to struggle in college basketball, especially I'd say with the rules the way they've changed. They are 0-15 against top 110 level teams in conference play.

Also just can't shoot. Really exposed in the free throw shooting. They've had 8 losses by my count 10 points or less in conference play.... look at the cumulative FT shooting for those 8 games:
SJ 101-172 58.7%
opp 173-232 74.6%

so the opponents have made more ft than St John's even shot. And the difference in points is 62- or about 7.75 per game. And these were the 8 10 points or less losses.

He's clearly talking about next year when we will have a PG and shooters.

I was talking about the guy who said you guys had enough talent on the roster to win 4-5 conference games this year. I think that's wrong- you guys don't have a PG or the shooters to really compete- and it's shown in the 8 losses. 15.5 TO per game in the 8 closer conference losses.....

We will have two top 100 point guards next year. One of them practiced with the team all year. We will be much improved.

[cu blujs]

It's not like the big east is going to be some powerhouse next year. It'll be Nova, Xavier, Seton Hall, and then everyone else

I was going to stay out of it, but this is just a really ignorant statement. The league is filled with talented underclassmen and top recruits coming in. Creighton loses only Groeselle and Milliken, but returns one of the top point guards in the league (who will then have a full year playing in the system), has a top 50 6'11" 4/5 who can fill it up from outside (#24 by Scout) redshirting this year, and a transfer (Marcus Foster) who was a HS Parade AA and was second team all Big XII as a freshman also redshirting (transfer). We also have a kid coming in who is right now killing it for one of the best NC HS teams (Davion Mintz) - averaging better than 29 points per game in NC's largest class, and recently had 25 pts, 11 assists and 10 rebounds in a play-off game (also sports a better than 4.0 gpa, I believe). Creighton will be better next year. Most of the BE teams are recruiting very well, and IMO most of the middle to lower half of the BE teams are going to be better than this year. I think St. John could be greatly improved, but if you are counting on the BE teams to slide toward mediocrity, you are going to be sorely disappointed.

I said St. J. "could be" improved, because I think the jury is still out on whether the Chris Mullin experience is going to work. He might get some recruits, but I don't see any real coaching going on. I liken this hire to when Creighton hired Willis Reed in the early 80s. Guy brought in #1 recruit Benoit Benjamin (wasn't above dating Ben's mom while recruiting Ben) and my all time favorite guard (Vernon Moore from Queens, I believe) with him. Got other top 100 recruits and put together the makings of a heck of a basketball team. But the guy was not that interested in actually coaching - showing up to practice late, and even up for games showed a number of times after the team was on the floor for warmups). After three seasons of his teams not consistently playing up to the level of talent that he had, he decided college coaching wasn't really his thing. But, maybe he will learn from this season and prove me wrong.

[stever20]

They'll win 15+ games next year. It's not like the big east is going to be some powerhouse next year. It'll be Nova, Xavier, Seton Hall, and then everyone else.

I think this is a very moronic statement. The conference will be at least as good as it was this year. The only one that will regress IMO is PC- losing Dunn will hurt big time. But the others aren't going anywhere- and DePaul will likely be improved. IT might not be the Big 12- but it won't be the AAC either.

[GoldenWarrior11]

They'll win 15+ games next year. It's not like the big east is going to be some powerhouse next year. It'll be Nova, Xavier, Seton Hall, and then everyone else.

I think this is a very moronic statement. The conference will be at least as good as it was this year. The only one that will regress IMO is PC- losing Dunn will hurt big time. But the others aren't going anywhere- and DePaul will likely be improved. IT might not be the Big 12- but it won't be the AAC either.

[Jet915]

They'll win 15+ games next year. It's not like the big east is going to be some powerhouse next year. It'll be Nova, Xavier, Seton Hall, and then everyone else.

I think this is a very moronic statement. The conference will be at least as good as it was this year. The only one that will regress IMO is PC- losing Dunn will hurt big time. But the others aren't going anywhere- and DePaul will likely be improved. IT might not be the Big 12- but it won't be the AAC either.

What did u do to the real stever?