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Re: Game of the year on Wednesday

Postby SJUBBALL » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:54 am

Took a look at some of the threads in musketeer madness. One of the dumbest posts there was from the infamous troll himself, NovaBall.


"Another underlying story line to this game is that BIG EAST rookie of the year may be up for grabs.

I think we can all agree that Josh Hart passed Dunn for BIG EAST player of the year last Saturday. But the game in fifteen days may determine the BIG EAST rookie of the year.

Right now I would put BiG EAST rookie of the year voting at:
1a. Edmond sumner
1b. Mikal Bridges
3. Henry Ellenson

If bridges outplays sumner again, he could take the lead for BIG EAST rookie of the year!"


If bridges outplays Sumner AGAIN!? Does he not realize Sumner was injured very early on in the first matchup. If bridges outplayed him it was only because Sumner was in a hospital in Philadelphia. And now that we are on the topic bridges is nowhere near freshmen of the year. It's ellenson, sumner, Cheathem, Brunson, then maybe Bridges
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Re: Game of the year on Wednesday

Postby chopper » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:24 am

Xavier4036 wrote:
How is that a DBag comment?

Isn't it just the truth? Responding to a comment about how Nova is some juggernaut of a program when they are the hunted - when that couldn't be further from the truth - in March, when it actually matters.

I mean come on, since 2009, Villanova has won exactly THREE GAMES in the NCAA tournament - since 2009! And that's with a 1 seed, 2 seed, 2 seed (and two other 9 seeds). So I am sorry if my comment hit a nerve or insecurity (I'd be upset and pissed about it, too, if I were a Nova fan) but let's not act like Nova has "settled into the hunted role nicely" given the NCAA tournament results since 2009.


Why stop at 2009? Oh, because from 2005-2009 they had 11 NCAA wins. So from 2005-2015 Nova has 14 NCAA wins. Xavier? 13.
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Re: Game of the year on Wednesday

Postby stever20 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:35 am

chopper wrote:
Xavier4036 wrote:
How is that a DBag comment?

Isn't it just the truth? Responding to a comment about how Nova is some juggernaut of a program when they are the hunted - when that couldn't be further from the truth - in March, when it actually matters.

I mean come on, since 2009, Villanova has won exactly THREE GAMES in the NCAA tournament - since 2009! And that's with a 1 seed, 2 seed, 2 seed (and two other 9 seeds). So I am sorry if my comment hit a nerve or insecurity (I'd be upset and pissed about it, too, if I were a Nova fan) but let's not act like Nova has "settled into the hunted role nicely" given the NCAA tournament results since 2009.


Why stop at 2009? Oh, because from 2005-2009 they had 11 NCAA wins. So from 2005-2015 Nova has 14 NCAA wins. Xavier? 13.

Nova recently hasn't handled the role of favorite well in the NCAA tournament. why start in 2005? The fact is since 2009's final 4- Nova has 3 wins. over 2 15's and a 16. Let's see them win a game against a team with a pulse and then maybe we can say that Nova has settled into the hunted role nicely where it actually matters- MARCH.
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Re: Game of the year on Wednesday

Postby XtoDC » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:36 am

Hard to say what Nova's toughest game of the year is when they have played and lost to OK and UVA but haven't played at the Cintas yet. My guess would be UVA is the most difficult. It's not like Nova is unsure if they can win at Cintas, they have the past two years and smoked Xavier at home. They will have plenty of confidence going into this matchup.

I'm not sure if the OP meant that this was the game of the year in all of basketball, but since it was on a Big East board I figured he meant it was the game of the year in the Big East which it clearly is.
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Re: Game of the year on Wednesday

Postby Xavier4036 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:38 am

chopper wrote:
Xavier4036 wrote:
How is that a DBag comment?

Isn't it just the truth? Responding to a comment about how Nova is some juggernaut of a program when they are the hunted - when that couldn't be further from the truth - in March, when it actually matters.

I mean come on, since 2009, Villanova has won exactly THREE GAMES in the NCAA tournament - since 2009! And that's with a 1 seed, 2 seed, 2 seed (and two other 9 seeds). So I am sorry if my comment hit a nerve or insecurity (I'd be upset and pissed about it, too, if I were a Nova fan) but let's not act like Nova has "settled into the hunted role nicely" given the NCAA tournament results since 2009.


Why stop at 2009? Oh, because from 2005-2009 they had 11 NCAA wins. So from 2005-2015 Nova has 14 NCAA wins. Xavier? 13.


Uh, well, because 2009 is the point that Villanova stopped being "settled into the hunted role nicely" as evidenced by a 1 seed, 2 seed, 2 seed (and two other 9 seeds) and out of all that mustered to get exactly THREE WINS.
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Re: Game of the year on Wednesday

Postby stever20 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:39 am

XtoDC wrote:Hard to say what Nova's toughest game of the year is when they have played and lost to OK and UVA but haven't played at the Cintas yet. My guess would be UVA is the most difficult. It's not like Nova is unsure if they can win at Cintas, they have the past two years and smoked Xavier at home. They will have plenty of confidence going into this matchup.

I'm not sure if the OP meant that this was the game of the year in all of basketball, but since it was on a Big East board I figured he meant it was the game of the year in the Big East which it clearly is.

just looking...
Nova @ UVA- Virginia had a 70% chance of winning in KP
Nova @ X- X has a 51% chance of winning in KP

It would have been UVA and not really all that close.....
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Re: Game of the year on Wednesday

Postby FormulaX » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:49 am

There is just no way I can trash talk about Nova. I've been a die hard Xavier fan for 25 years. In those years, no team, has done to Xavier, what Nova has been doing. I actually think the Nova fans have been pretty graceful about it. Although, it may just be from not having much respect for Xavier and not seeing it as much of an accomplishment :D :D Either way, I just think Xavier get the win tomorrow. Because, they're good enough to get it done at home and they are due to win eventually!!! If Nova doesn't win, I'm really curious if poll voters are going to over inflate the loss and dis Nova, heavier than they should be.....
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Re: Game of the year on Wednesday

Postby MUBoxer » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:01 am

GumbyDamnit! wrote:
Xavier4036 wrote:
chopper wrote:
In order to win against Nova, X will need to not allow Nova to dictate how X plays offense. Nova is excellent at forcing teams to play differently than they are used to. They will not be rattled on the road...they feed off of hostile environments, and have settled into the hunted role nicely. They are also used to scoring without hitting a lot of threes. This is a completely different team than last year. X will need to play their best offensive game to take this game.


Except in March, evidently.


DBag comment of the day.

You can't throw stones when your own program is 0-fer vs the other team AND has never made a FF let alone a NC.



Howso? It's fairly accurate. And he didn't say anything about FF or NCs he just said March, X has had loads of success recently in March so I'd say he has earned the right as an X fan to critique when a program chokes on their own hype... three times.
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Re: Game of the year on Wednesday

Postby chopper » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:02 am

Xavier4036 wrote:


Uh, well, because 2009 is the point that Villanova stopped being "settled into the hunted role nicely" as evidenced by a 1 seed, 2 seed, 2 seed (and two other 9 seeds) and out of all that mustered to get exactly THREE WINS.[/quote]

You do realize I hope that the main reasoning pundits give for Nova coming up short the last 2 years in March is that their conference does nothing to prepare them for March pressure and competition. Xavier, who I "guess" had a better season since they won an extra game against a double-digit seed in March, certainly didn't give Nova a challenge last year. Maybe they will tomorrow. To date, Nova has a +12.4 margin of victory in BE games. So if Nova comes up short again, there will certainly be plenty of questions about the quality of competition, or lack there of, from the rest of their conference.
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Re: Game of the year on Wednesday

Postby SJUBBALL » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:13 am

chopper wrote:
Xavier4036 wrote:


Uh, well, because 2009 is the point that Villanova stopped being "settled into the hunted role nicely" as evidenced by a 1 seed, 2 seed, 2 seed (and two other 9 seeds) and out of all that mustered to get exactly THREE WINS.


You do realize I hope that the main reasoning pundits give for Nova coming up short the last 2 years in March is that their conference does nothing to prepare them for March pressure and competition. Xavier, who I "guess" had a better season since they won an extra game against a double-digit seed in March, certainly didn't give Nova a challenge last year. Maybe they will tomorrow. To date, Nova has a +12.4 margin of victory in BE games. So if Nova comes up short again, there will certainly be plenty of questions about the quality of competition, or lack there of, from the rest of their conference.[/quote]


This is where I lose nova fans. Why throw it out there that it is the rest of the conference fault that you guys lost to NC State? Xavier, Georgetown Butler, and Providence were all better seeds than NC State last year, it wasn't their fault or even St John's fault who got a 9 seed, that Villanova didn't get it done that night.

I know you are throwing that out there as self defense because Xavier fans are taking shots at your postseason play of late, and I get it. It's frustrating. But I don't think it's fair to say the conference isn't preparing nova for March.

Despite their record, nova has lost to PC, played a close one on their floor, Butler played them tough twice, St John's played them tough in philly, Seton Hall gave them a very close game, they won't win in Cintas easily if they end up doing so. So it's not like they aren't prepared for high pressure situations and close games in March
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