RxJay wrote:OK "Mr What If" how good would SMU be without all the cheating that they do every year. I am sure you can find some numbers to support your case. I don't understand the NCAA, if a team cheats there should be no metrics for them that year.
stever20 wrote:Billyjack,
The fact is that SMU games DO count and do benefit the AAC. I don't see any non cheater RPI's out there anywhere. Tulsa and Temple DO benefit from beating SMU. Houston as well(as now they're top 100). The committee isn't going to say wait, that win was vs SMU- it shouldn't count. If Cincy or UConn beat them- same thing. Maybe it should- but it doesn't.
billyjack wrote:stever20 wrote:Billyjack,
The fact is that SMU games DO count and do benefit the AAC. I don't see any non cheater RPI's out there anywhere. Tulsa and Temple DO benefit from beating SMU. Houston as well(as now they're top 100). The committee isn't going to say wait, that win was vs SMU- it shouldn't count. If Cincy or UConn beat them- same thing. Maybe it should- but it doesn't.
If we're looking at bracketology, the committee may take SMU's cheating into consideration. Not sure, but it could be a factor.
If we're looking at overall conference strength, or "closing the gap", then SMU absolutely should be subtracted out. I'd be curious to see where the AAC falls.
Note that simply subtracting out SMU's ratings doesn't go far enough, since SMU has affected a boatload of team rating numbers.
[edit: i agree with what what RxJay said just above]
Xavier4036 wrote:The American is not a good basketball conference. Noone is saying they are low-major like the America East conference but there is a significant and substantial difference between the P5+BE conferences and the American.
The ONLY reason people on here are talking about the American, is because you repeatedly bring it up. You resurrected a 2 week old thread to brag about how "strong" (again, your word) the American conference is and how they are "closing the gap" to the Big East - when has been pointed out repeatedly, are still closer to the Colonial, Mountain West, Summit, MAC than to the Big East.
The other reason people are posting about the American is.....
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Your obsession with the American and overly-rosy, optimistic viewpoint of that conference last year in which every single one of your predictions turned out to be absolutely not true. It's odd for a fan of Georgetown to have this intense, continued obsession with another conference that you'll post wild and outlandish claims in favor of that conference and against your own conference that everyone knows likely won't happen .... and then you have to get called out on it the following year when you are just wrong ... and start with vintage Stever antics .... "If only UConn had beat SMU, they'd be in!" or "If Wyoming had lost, Temple would be in!"
Instead of living in reality, you live in this warped world where either everything will go exactly right for the American in the future or when your inaccuracies from the past are called out you have excuse after excuse of ifs, ands, onlys and buts.
stever20 wrote:RxJay wrote:OK "Mr What If" how good would SMU be without all the cheating that they do every year. I am sure you can find some numbers to support your case. I don't understand the NCAA, if a team cheats there should be no metrics for them that year.
It'll be interesting to see if an AAC team or 2 makes the tourney as a direct result of SMU if there's any talk of a change.
It's a strange situation though. Normally when a team is on probation, they aren't that good.
marquette wrote:stever20 wrote:That's the problem, folks here want to make the AAC out to be like the American East conference or something like that.
Question, and I'd like you to give it some thought before you respond; Why do you care what we think about the AAC? Why is it so important to you to right this evil? It's an awful odd justice campaign to choose when there are so many worthy causes out there where your massive free time could be put to better use.
Xavier4036 wrote:marquette wrote:stever20 wrote:That's the problem, folks here want to make the AAC out to be like the American East conference or something like that.
Question, and I'd like you to give it some thought before you respond; Why do you care what we think about the AAC? Why is it so important to you to right this evil? It's an awful odd justice campaign to choose when there are so many worthy causes out there where your massive free time could be put to better use.
Stever, can you answer this, please?
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