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Re: Stever the Bracketologist

Postby NJRedman » Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:31 pm

Guys, we all know Stever is a bit of a blowhard but lets not start crucifying the guy. We certainly don't get along but I don't find any satisfaction in a lynch mob. Let him be a AAC cheerleader, debate him and show him how he's wrong.
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Re: Stever the Bracketologist

Postby Xavier4036 » Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:54 pm

stever20 wrote:The AAC isn't a great conference, but it is no dumpster fire like someone said yesterday. It's a solid #7/8 conference right now. If you want to know what a dumpster fire is, look at the MWC, MVC, or WCC. No one wants to talk about that though.


Not sure why you are saying #7/8. The AAC is the 8th conference, not 7. It's interesting you bring up the Mountain West conference and call it a dumpster fire.

The American is closer to the Mountain West in terms of RPI than it is to the Big East!
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Re: Stever the Bracketologist

Postby stever20 » Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:59 pm

Xavier4036 wrote:
stever20 wrote:The AAC isn't a great conference, but it is no dumpster fire like someone said yesterday. It's a solid #7/8 conference right now. If you want to know what a dumpster fire is, look at the MWC, MVC, or WCC. No one wants to talk about that though.


Not sure why you are saying #7/8. The AAC is the 8th conference, not 7. It's interesting you bring up the Mountain West conference and call it a dumpster fire.

The American is closer to the Mountain West in terms of RPI than it is to the Big East!

In Ken Pom, the AAC is #7. In Sagarin, the AAC is #7.

The AAC is closer to the Big Ten and SEC than it is the MWC.

The MWC has 1 team higher than #93 right now.
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Re: Stever the Bracketologist

Postby Xavier4036 » Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:59 pm

stever20 wrote:
About the other stuff. You can't say I was wrong about Xavier last year because they weren't presented to the tourney with an 18-14 record. We have no idea what the committee would have done with that. NONE. You bring up the A10/AAC. If UConn had beaten SMU, UConn would have been in and Dayton out. Also if Wyoming hadn't won, Temple would have been in.


This is vintage Stever.

Stever is called out ... in his own words ... with how he was just totally and completely WRONG last year on so many things that he acted on here was the word from God...

And instead of just swallowing his pride and admitting he was wrong - he starts with the ifs, ands, buts .... If only UConn had beat SMU, they'd have been in! If only Wyoming would have loss, Temple would have been in!

Such a classic Stever. Living in any world that isn't REALITY. He's even doing it looking at something retrospectively!
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Re: Stever the Bracketologist

Postby Xavier4036 » Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:03 am

stever20 wrote:In Ken Pom, the AAC is #7. In Sagarin, the AAC is #7.

The AAC is closer to the Big Ten and SEC than it is the MWC.

The MWC has 1 team higher than #93 right now.


So now you use KenPom and NOT RPI? Is RPI only used in your "analysis" when it's disadvantageous to Big East teams.

You have an entire thread on here where you are arguing how "strong" the AAC is because they've "closed the gap" (both your phrases) with the Big East. I then point out that the American is closer to the Mountain West (which you declare is a "dumpster fire"), Mid-American, Colonial and Summit than it is to the Big East..... and then you respond by bringing up the SEC??
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Re: Stever the Bracketologist

Postby stever20 » Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:17 am

Xavier4036 wrote:
stever20 wrote:In Ken Pom, the AAC is #7. In Sagarin, the AAC is #7.

The AAC is closer to the Big Ten and SEC than it is the MWC.

The MWC has 1 team higher than #93 right now.


So now you use KenPom and NOT RPI? Is RPI only used in your "analysis" when it's disadvantageous to Big East teams.

You have an entire thread on here where you are arguing how "strong" the AAC is because they've "closed the gap" (both your phrases) with the Big East. I then point out that the American is closer to the Mountain West (which you declare is a "dumpster fire"), Mid-American, Colonial and Summit than it is to the Big East..... and then you respond by bringing up the SEC??

The SEC and Big Ten are the #5 and 6 conferences right now in RPI. I know you think the AAC is so much worse than any P5 conference, but the numbers don't back that up this season.

I'm not saying the AAC is strong, but they are no where near as weak as you want to make them out to be. That's the problem, folks here want to make the AAC out to be like the American East conference or something like that. They are a top 7/8 level conference. You say they're #8 in RPI. Well they are only .0019 behind the A10 right now. That's nothing.

Last year the gap in RPI between BE and AAC was .0442. This year it's .0296. How is that NOT closing the gap?
Last year the gap in KP between BE and AAC was .2262. This year it's .0877. How is that NOT closing the gap?

In Ken Pom, the AAC is NOT closer to the MWC, MAC, CAA, or Summit.

I use both Ken Pom and RPI. You really need both especially when looking at bubble teams.
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Re: Stever the Bracketologist

Postby Xavier4036 » Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:38 am

The American is not a good basketball conference. Noone is saying they are low-major like the America East conference but there is a significant and substantial difference between the P5+BE conferences and the American.

The ONLY reason people on here are talking about the American, is because you repeatedly bring it up. You resurrected a 2 week old thread to brag about how "strong" (again, your word) the American conference is and how they are "closing the gap" to the Big East - when has been pointed out repeatedly, are still closer to the Colonial, Mountain West, Summit, MAC than to the Big East.

The other reason people are posting about the American is.....

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5146

Your obsession with the American and overly-rosy, optimistic viewpoint of that conference last year in which every single one of your predictions turned out to be absolutely not true. It's odd for a fan of Georgetown to have this intense, continued obsession with another conference that you'll post wild and outlandish claims in favor of that conference and against your own conference that everyone knows likely won't happen .... and then you have to get called out on it the following year when you are just wrong ... and start with vintage Stever antics .... "If only UConn had beat SMU, they'd be in!" or "If Wyoming had lost, Temple would be in!"

Instead of living in reality, you live in this warped world where either everything will go exactly right for the American in the future or when your inaccuracies from the past are called out you have excuse after excuse of ifs, ands, onlys and buts.
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Re: Stever the Bracketologist

Postby marquette » Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:58 am

stever20 wrote:That's the problem, folks here want to make the AAC out to be like the American East conference or something like that.


Question, and I'd like you to give it some thought before you respond; Why do you care what we think about the AAC? Why is it so important to you to right this evil? It's an awful odd justice campaign to choose when there are so many worthy causes out there where your massive free time could be put to better use.
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Re: Stever the Bracketologist

Postby NovaBall » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:24 am

This might be one of the funniest threads ever.
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Re: Stever the Bracketologist

Postby billyjack » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:43 am

stever20 wrote:
Xavier4036 wrote:
stever20 wrote:In Ken Pom, the AAC is #7. In Sagarin, the AAC is #7.

The AAC is closer to the Big Ten and SEC than it is the MWC.

The MWC has 1 team higher than #93 right now.


So now you use KenPom and NOT RPI? Is RPI only used in your "analysis" when it's disadvantageous to Big East teams.

You have an entire thread on here where you are arguing how "strong" the AAC is because they've "closed the gap" (both your phrases) with the Big East. I then point out that the American is closer to the Mountain West (which you declare is a "dumpster fire"), Mid-American, Colonial and Summit than it is to the Big East..... and then you respond by bringing up the SEC??

The SEC and Big Ten are the #5 and 6 conferences right now in RPI. I know you think the AAC is so much worse than any P5 conference, but the numbers don't back that up this season.

I'm not saying the AAC is strong, but they are no where near as weak as you want to make them out to be. That's the problem, folks here want to make the AAC out to be like the American East conference or something like that. They are a top 7/8 level conference. You say they're #8 in RPI. Well they are only .0019 behind the A10 right now. That's nothing.

Last year the gap in RPI between BE and AAC was .0442. This year it's .0296. How is that NOT closing the gap?
Last year the gap in KP between BE and AAC was .2262. This year it's .0877. How is that NOT closing the gap?

In Ken Pom, the AAC is NOT closer to the MWC, MAC, CAA, or Summit.

I use both Ken Pom and RPI. You really need both especially when looking at bubble teams.


You should subtract out SMU's numbers from the AAC and then check the gap between each of the conferences.
SMU cheated and the AAC as a whole benefits from their great W-L record.

For that matter, after looking at those numbers, go ahead and subtract out Louisville and UNC from the ACC's ratings, and see where everything falls.
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