GumbyDamnit! wrote:What's hilarious is going back and looking at the early HLOH threads from right before the league was formed. People were saying that programs like Providence should be booted and Marq. was lauded as one of the pillars of the league (rightfully so because of their previous decade of excellence). Now Prov has a BE championship, a top 10 team and soon to be 3 straight years in the tourney. Meanwhile, Marq has struggled (that's not to say they will moving forward, but just that they have had a couple down years).
Creighton is a terrific addition to this league. No one here knows for sure what programs will look like 3, 5 10 years from now. But with their fan support, facilities and commitment to basketball, I can't see them staying down for long.
It's easy to puff out your chest with short terms success. Just be careful which fan bases you kick on the way up, as you might just see them do the same a year or two down the road. What I'd say to (some) X fans...act like you've been there (had success) before.
[/quote][b]Creighton is a terrific addition to this league. No one here knows for sure what programs will look like 3, 5 10 years from now. But with their fan support, facilities and commitment to basketball, I can't see them staying down for long.
It's easy to puff out your chest with short terms success. Just be careful which fan bases you kick on the way up, as you might just see them do the same a year or two down the road. What I'd say to (some) X fans...act like you've been there (had success) before.
[b]jaxalum wrote:GumbyDamnit! wrote:What's hilarious is going back and looking at the early HLOH threads from right before the league was formed. People were saying that programs like Providence should be booted and Marq. was lauded as one of the pillars of the league (rightfully so because of their previous decade of excellence). Now Prov has a BE championship, a top 10 team and soon to be 3 straight years in the tourney. Meanwhile, Marq has struggled (that's not to say they will moving forward, but just that they have had a couple down years).
Creighton is a terrific addition to this league. No one here knows for sure what programs will look like 3, 5 10 years from now. But with their fan support, facilities and commitment to basketball, I can't see them staying down for long.
It's easy to puff out your chest with short terms success. Just be careful which fan bases you kick on the way up, as you might just see them do the same a year or two down the road. What I'd say to (some) X fans...act like you've been there (had success) before.
I think I can safely speak for 99.999999% of Xavier fans in saying we do not hold the view concerning Creighton being replaced, or ANY current member for that matter. I feel ridiculous even writing something so asinine. I would maintain that the feelings concerning Creighton (and Butler) are comprehensively and thoroughly contrary to those expressed earlier in this thread. I would also venture to say that there is a certain camaraderie between X, Creighton, and Butler fans, as we are the "newbies" to an already established league that we had been building for years to receive that coveted invite, both on the institutional level as well as the court. As someone else commented earlier, it is extremely insulting to speculate or opine on the removal of an existing member.
So my apologies to Creighton, or any other league members that were even the least bit annoyed by such foolish and cretinous remarks. Creighton was/is a fantastic choice/fit to join the Big East (top notch academics, unequaled fan support, on court success) and their fans have proven to be intelligent and fun posters on this forum....even you Gtmo Blue . And its definitely on my bucket list to take in a day in Omaha and a game at CenturyLink.
Again, I think I can speak for the majority of X fans in saying that we are completely vested in the the success of each and every team in this league. I catch 95% of OOC games that our league members play and get gassed up rooting for a W in every one of them. I NEVER did that while X was in the A-10.Creighton is a terrific addition to this league. No one here knows for sure what programs will look like 3, 5 10 years from now. But with their fan support, facilities and commitment to basketball, I can't see them staying down for long.
It's easy to puff out your chest with short terms success. Just be careful which fan bases you kick on the way up, as you might just see them do the same a year or two down the road. What I'd say to (some) X fans...act like you've been there (had success) before.
DudeAnon wrote:I have nothing against Creighton, just got emotional because of one poster, I'm sorry.
jaxalum wrote:St Louis fits the academic mold, has great facilities, and of all the "candidates", possesses the best location , as St. Louis is one of the premiere sports cities in the country. It would be a coup for the Big East to add this city to the likes of Chicago, New York, D.C., Indy, etc. The obvious, and major obstacle, is the lack of on court success. I have no idea of their present commitment to their basketball program.
GumbyDamnit! wrote:DudeAnon wrote:I have nothing against Creighton, just got emotional because of one poster, I'm sorry.
Good job DudeAnon.
mpwalsh8 wrote:In this week's ESPN College Hoops podcast Andy Katz has discussion with Bob Huggins and the topic of the Big 12 expansion comes up. In particular, Katz mentions both Cincy and UConn as Big 12 expansion candidates. Huggins pretty much craps all over the idea of the Big 12 expanding as ANY candidate must bring something financial to divide the pie by 12 instead of by 10 make sense. He essentially says neither UConn nor Cincy do that. He likes the league the way it is and completely dismisses the notion that WVU needs a travel partner.
Listen: http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=14508617
ohiohsbball wrote:mpwalsh8 wrote:In this week's ESPN College Hoops podcast Andy Katz has discussion with Bob Huggins and the topic of the Big 12 expansion comes up. In particular, Katz mentions both Cincy and UConn as Big 12 expansion candidates. Huggins pretty much craps all over the idea of the Big 12 expanding as ANY candidate must bring something financial to divide the pie by 12 instead of by 10 make sense. He essentially says neither UConn nor Cincy do that. He likes the league the way it is and completely dismisses the notion that WVU needs a travel partner.
Listen: http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=14508617
I also saw that, but honestly don't buy anything of what Huggy Bear says. In just the first year, there was an article I read (I'll try to find and post) that West Virginia is getting beat up on travel with other sports. Cincy crapped all over him when he was let go, so of course he will not like the idea of Cincinnati going to the Big 12.
I can't believe there are over 130 pages of this; some of it is good read, but people still with the pipe dream of Uconn dropping football is completely unrealistic, especially since they just went to a bowl game..
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