Conference realignment discussion - v. 2015

[DudeAnon]

Doesn't every F5 conference but the SEC have a Grant of Rights agreement in place? Doesn't that essentially block any team from leaving the ACC, B1G, P12 or B12? Won't it take at least 5 more years for those agreements to expire?

Maybe so, I don't think any of the proposed scenarios would need to happen before then so it shouldn't really matter.

[stever20]

everything is going to expire at just about the same time....
NCAA Tourney- (thru 2023-24 season)
Pac 12 TV contract(thru 2023-24 season)
SEC CBS contract(thru 2023-24 season)
Big 12 GOR (thru 2024-25 season)(and TV contract)
Big East TV contract (thru 2024-25 season)
College Football Playoff (thru 2025-26 season)
ACC GOR (thru 2026-27 season)(and TV contract)

also if Big Ten does 10 year deal, they would expire again after the 2026-27 season.

Think it's pretty interesting that the biggest thing is one of the 1st ones to come up- the NCAA tourney.

[Boyee]

I personally feel that adding Saint Louis University to the Big East would be great for the conference. I'd like to see a Northeastern team added either Saint Joseph's, Siena, Canisius, or Connecticut (if they go back to FCS).

[notkirkcameron]

I personally feel that adding Saint Louis University to the Big East would be great for the conference. I'd like to see a Northeastern team added either Saint Joseph's, Siena, Canisius, or Connecticut (if they go back to FCS).

Disagree as to all candidates.

SLU has been garbage. Coach Crews squandered the success generated by three consecutive NCAA Tournament runs by failing to win with anyone other than Rick Majerus' guys. SLU was on the upswing at the formation of the conference but they are a listing ship now. They went 11-21 last year and are 5-6 so far this year, with losses to UT-Martin, Southern Illinois, Indiana State, and Morehead State. In short, they're not very good, and are regressing as a program.

St. Joe's doesn't give the league anything it doesn't already have with Villanova.

But that far outshines the case for Siena and Canisius. They don't give the league anything at all (#119 and #150 KenPom). Canisius has been to the tournament once since the 1950s. Siena has been to the tournament only 6 times in program history, and never got past the second round. Your media markets here are Buffalo and Albany, neither one of which moves the needle.

UConn isn't dropping football anytime soon, so don't bother with the UConn pipe dream.

[ecasadoSBU]

Leave it at 10! No more!

[GoldenWarrior11]

I would just like to point out that the Big East, perhaps for the first time in the conference's history, appears to be very much looking at expansion from a position of strength - being selective and decisive regarding any potential new candidates - rather than a weakness - being reactionary and taking the best available schools just to keep the conference alive. Whether it was Miami, Virginia Tech, Boston College, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Notre Dame, Louisville, West Virginia or Rutgers, the old Big East would add schools just to keep the football crowd happy - inviting Boise State, San Diego State, Houston, SMU, Memphis, East Carolina, UCF and, gulp, Tulane. Now, our conference built upon ten like-minded institutions, in big cities with a clear emphasis towards big-time basketball, can afford to be patient with regards to expansion.

Not sure what we look like in 10 years, but it is very satisfying to know that there are very strong odds that no school(s) will be poached by another conference. We are the top dog in basketball-only conferences, and our basketball-only schools appear to be done with sharing conferences with football schools (where football gets all of the attention and big decisions).

I'm just going to enjoy what we have, and look forward to being bigger and better each year (with our 10 schools, or possibly more).

[ecasadoSBU]

I cant wait to see the day the B.E gets a basketball championship again. That's going to be biggggg. Maybe the X or Butler can go on a deep run. Even Nova and Prov can compete with the best. No expansion till then. This current configuration needs to prove that it is elite prior to adding any more programs

[MUPanther]

everything is going to expire at just about the same time....
NCAA Tourney- (thru 2023-24 season)
Pac 12 TV contract(thru 2023-24 season)
SEC CBS contract(thru 2023-24 season)
Big 12 GOR (thru 2024-25 season)(and TV contract)
Big East TV contract (thru 2024-25 season)
College Football Playoff (thru 2025-26 season)
ACC GOR (thru 2026-27 season)(and TV contract)

also if Big Ten does 10 year deal, they would expire again after the 2026-27 season.

Think it's pretty interesting that the biggest thing is one of the 1st ones to come up- the NCAA tourney.

Word on the street is the contact might be adding years on for the ncaa tourament.

[gtmoBlue]

The football meetings in January will tell the tale. If the force the Big 12 & ACC to division play and a championship game between division winners-the game changes. The other 3 football majors want to ensure the ACC & Big 12 are playing by the same rule book, rather than cherry picking championship game participants. If forced into division play, many media pundits expect near immediate Big 12 expansion (from slim pickings - BYU, Colorado St., Cincy) to remain eligible for the playoff

http://www.campusrush.com/big-12-confer ... 68401.html

UTexas has fallen into line with its conference mates: the Longhorn Network has poor viewership as UT has not been a factor in the last 3-4 years in football. An article states ESPN has lost $48-50 mill on the LHN. Look for the LHN to die quietly.

UT lost the old Ironman in Dodds, who "retired". Then hired Patterson (who fired coaches, would not take advice, and disaffected the fan base and donors) and was recently fired. UT has problems...they will go along with the conference herd. A big change from a mere 4 years ago.

If the B1G or SEC raid again...they will raid the ACC.

[NJRedman]

The football meetings in January will tell the tale. If the force the Big 12 & ACC to division play and a championship game between division winners-the game changes. The other 3 football majors want to ensure the ACC & Big 12 are playing by the same rule book, rather than cherry picking championship game participants. If forced into division play, many media pundits expect near immediate Big 12 expansion (from slim pickings - BYU, Colorado St., Cincy) to remain eligible for the playoff

http://www.campusrush.com/big-12-confer ... 68401.html

UTexas has fallen into line with its conference mates: the Longhorn Network has poor viewership as UT has not been a factor in the last 3-4 years in football. An article states ESPN has lost $48-50 mill on the LHN. Look for the LHN to die quietly.

UT lost the old Ironman in Dodds, who "retired". Then hired Patterson (who fired coaches, would not take advice, and disaffected the fan base and donors) and was recently fired. UT has problems...they will go along with the conference herd. A big change from a mere 4 years ago.

If the B1G or SEC raid again...they will raid the ACC.

Yeah, the new leadership of UT seems to be more conference focused.

I don't see the ACC's rule to pretty much pick whomever they want to play in the ACC championship game to pass. I do see a real possibility to allow a conference of ten teams and two divisions to play a CCG.