Conference realignment discussion - v. 2015

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Re: Conference realignment discussion - v. 2015

Postby NJRedman » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:05 am

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Edrick wrote:Of course they cannot sustain it in football. Anyway here are the conference football rankings.

1 SEC-WEST (A) = 84.02
2 BIG 12 (A) = 80.00
3 PAC-12(SOUTH) (A) = 79.48
4 PAC-12(NORTH) (A) = 78.32
5 SEC-EAST (A) = 77.03
6 ACC-COASTAL (A) = 76.89
7 BIG TEN-EAST (A) = 75.77
8 BIG TEN-WEST (A) = 75.66
9 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 74.69
10 ACC-ATLANTIC (A) = 74.48
11 AAC WEST (A) = 67.54
12 AAC EAST (A) = 66.89
13 MWC-MOUNTAIN (A) = 64.29
14 MAC-WEST (A) = 63.12
15 MISSOURI VALLEY (AA)= 58.86
16 MWC-WEST (A) = 58.30

The AAC is literally as close to the FCS Missouri Valley as they are to the worst of the P5.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sa ... onference/

Last year, the Missouri Valley was quite a bit better than the AAC.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sa ... onference/


What do you mean of course they can't sustain it? You do know they have now been bowl eligible under three straight coaches 4 times in the last 6 years. I think they can definitely sustain itself in the upper half of the AAC with a few titles/title game appearances. And if anyone holds a sliver of hope that UConn might one day rejoin us then rooting for Temple to succeed is the way to go. A Temple who becomes an AAC power is a sexy candidate for the ACC,


College football is a strange sport. Celebrating being "bowl eligible" is one of those things. In any other sport, having a .500 record or better in 4 of 6 years is not a cause for celebration.in fact, it means that the program is still struggling to become a consistent winner.

With regard to Temple, the fact that they've done it under 3 straight coaches means that they've had 3 different coaches within a 6 year period. That kind of coaching turnover in such a short time frame is not a good sign for a program either. Sustain it? Heck, this is the first time in the last 4 years they've had a winning record. They were 2-10 just 2 years ago. They had a nice little run for 3 years that ended in 2011. They hadn't had a winning season since going into this year, which means they haven't sustained anything.


Not a good sign for your program that P5 schools keep taking your coaches because they are winning?

Games won per year since Temple hired Al Golden ten years ago.

2006 1-11
2007 4-8
2008 5-7
2009 9-4
2010 8-4
2011 9-4
2012 4-7
2013 2-10
2014 6-6
2015 7-0

There is a clear improvement and it seems that they are improving every year since their schedule improved from their years in the MAC. So yes they are improving and sustaining. Small blips are normal in college football especially when dealing with coaching turnover and conference switching which took part at the same time which resulted in that 2-10 record. Clearly the new coaching staff has shown that that was an aberration since going .500 last season and 7-0 and ranked this season.

So I see no reason to say that this year is somehow a fluke and that there is no way they can't sustain this level of success in the AAC. Maybe not undefeated and ranked but at the top of their division and constantly battling for a conference championship is very much a possibility.
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Re: Conference realignment discussion - v. 2015

Postby NJRedman » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:09 am

Hoya Hoya Hoya wrote:
@theDudeofWV Big 12 presidents meeting where expansion will be discussed

@theDudeofWV There is a slight chance the Big 12 could decide to expand. Say 2%. If it did the invites would go to BYU and Memphis.

@theDudeofWV Of course for Cincy and USF the 98% chance the Big 12 will do nothing should be of comfort.

@theDudeofWV I get the vibe that the run by Memphis might push the Big 12 to act.


Where does UConn go? Imagine them being stuck in AAC without Memphis/Cincy


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Re: Conference realignment discussion - v. 2015

Postby Jet915 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:46 am

Memphis over Cincy? That would be a joke and very reactionary.
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Re: Conference realignment discussion - v. 2015

Postby stever20 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:53 am

Jet915 wrote:Memphis over Cincy? That would be a joke and very reactionary.


A big part of that would be geography to everyone else. Also location in SEC country would be seen as a huge plus.
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Re: Conference realignment discussion - v. 2015

Postby Jet915 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:00 pm

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Jet915 wrote:Memphis over Cincy? That would be a joke and very reactionary.


A big part of that would be geography to everyone else. Also location in SEC country would be seen as a huge plus.


Over piss poor academics and a history of very poor football?
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Re: Conference realignment discussion - v. 2015

Postby stever20 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:16 pm

Jet915 wrote:
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Jet915 wrote:Memphis over Cincy? That would be a joke and very reactionary.


A big part of that would be geography to everyone else. Also location in SEC country would be seen as a huge plus.


Over piss poor academics and a history of very poor football?

Cincy is ahead of Memphis really only due to the last 8 years. Before that- Cincy was only like 7 games ahead of Memphis in the FBS era. Cincy isn't a juggernaut in football by any measure.

Also, Memphis does bring the Liberty Bowl with it.
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Re: Conference realignment discussion - v. 2015

Postby NJRedman » Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:00 pm

Jet915 wrote:
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Jet915 wrote:Memphis over Cincy? That would be a joke and very reactionary.


A big part of that would be geography to everyone else. Also location in SEC country would be seen as a huge plus.


Over piss poor academics and a history of very poor football?


Well the Big XII isn't one of those conferences that care about academics.
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Re: Conference realignment discussion - v. 2015

Postby GoldenWarrior11 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:50 pm

I don't see how it could happen anytime soon, but I feel like Memphis, Cincinnati, Louisville, Pittsburgh and West Virginia all need to be in the same conference. Those would all be pretty good regional basketball/football matchups.
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Re: Conference realignment discussion - v. 2015

Postby DudeAnon » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:41 pm

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Over piss poor academics and a history of
Cincy is ahead of Memphis really only due to the last 8 years. Before that- Cincy was only like 7 games ahead of Memphis in the FBS era. Cincy isn't a juggernaut in football by any measure.

Also, Memphis does bring the Liberty Bowl with it.


Don't know much about CFB but Cincy made the sugar bowl 5 years ago. Can't imagine Memphis had done the same.
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Re: Conference realignment discussion - v. 2015

Postby stever20 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:48 pm

DudeAnon wrote:
stever20 wrote:
Over piss poor academics and a history of
Cincy is ahead of Memphis really only due to the last 8 years. Before that- Cincy was only like 7 games ahead of Memphis in the FBS era. Cincy isn't a juggernaut in football by any measure.

Also, Memphis does bring the Liberty Bowl with it.


Don't know much about CFB but Cincy made the sugar bowl 5 years ago. Can't imagine Memphis had done the same.


and Memphis could do something similar this year. The gap between Cincy and Memphis is no where near as large as you would think. Add in bigger stadium with a bowl game, geography.
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