trephin wrote:re: UConn's finances
Has everyone seen actual numbers? how much does football really drain the school? what is the AAC rules with bowls? are they shared equally? even if UConn never gets into the P5, can the occasional playoff once a decade or so plus the conference's other school's bowls be enough maybe not to be in the black but enough to not be a sink hole especially in the non financial argument how football is advertising?
I suspect that the investment is too great for them to ever give up football.
oh, and is it really their academics keeping them out of the B1G as opposed to just on field success? They may not be AAU but I always thought their academics were pretty sharp?
GoldenWarrior11 wrote:Fair counterpoint, Dash.
I would say that history has shown that realignment never stops. While conference alignment may lay dormant for several years, there are always shifts for what schools think is in their best interests. There was a time when many schools were independent. Marquette for example, even without football, was an independent for nearly 75 years - and has been in 4 conferences in the past 25 years. Virginia Tech has been a member in the Southern Conference, Metro Conference, Big East Conference, Atlantic-10 Conference, Atlantic Coast Conference, as well as an independent - all in the past 40 years. Many schools went through numerous conference affiliations, mostly due to the ever changing landscape of collegiate athletics.
I would also say that, in regards to money being spent, Cincinnati, Connecticut and USF (the three schools that were left out during the last go-around), can actually afford to wait and pump money back into their athletic programs because they collected a significant amount of exit fees from when the original Big East schools that separated (West Virginia, Rutgers, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Notre Dame). In our separation agreement (between the AAC and BE), I believe that those three schools got close to $90 million total of the war chest that was left behind. It appears that they are pumping some of those funds into renovations of their current athletic facilities (Cincinnati for sure) to appeal to the power conferences for an invitation.
Boyee wrote:I think the best options if the Big East Conference should expand to 12 schools are Saint Louis University (between Creighton and the rest of the Big East former rivals of DePaul and Marquette) and the University of Connecticut (Storrs, CT, if they go back to FCS) or Saint Joseph's University (Philadelphia, PA) or Duquesne University of the Holy Spirit (Pittsburgh, PA) or Siena College (suburban Albany, NY) or Canisius College (Buffalo, NY) or College of the Holy Cross (Worcester, MA, original Big East Conference founding invitee)
gtmoBlue wrote:If another round of expansion occurs, it is doubtful that the B1G takes another school from the Big 12. However, if Delaney should scoop up one, it is likely to be Iowa State - not KU. Both are AAU, but ISU receives more than twice the research funding that KU receives.
ISU - $425 million (2015)
KU - $238 million (2014)
http://www.news.iastate.edu/news/2015/0 ... dfunding15
http://research.ku.edu/sites/research.k ... FY2014.pdf
It should be noted that both were about to be left in the cold in the last round of reorganization, when UT and the Okies were thinking of going to the PAC 12. The Kansas legislature was attempting to bind a KU/KSU package. None of the Big 12
schools are a good fit for inclusion as BE schools.
aughnanure wrote:gtmoBlue wrote:If another round of expansion occurs, it is doubtful that the B1G takes another school from the Big 12. However, if Delaney should scoop up one, it is likely to be Iowa State - not KU. Both are AAU, but ISU receives more than twice the research funding that KU receives.
ISU - $425 million (2015)
KU - $238 million (2014)
http://www.news.iastate.edu/news/2015/0 ... dfunding15
http://research.ku.edu/sites/research.k ... FY2014.pdf
It should be noted that both were about to be left in the cold in the last round of reorganization, when UT and the Okies were thinking of going to the PAC 12. The Kansas legislature was attempting to bind a KU/KSU package. None of the Big 12
schools are a good fit for inclusion as BE schools.
Iowa State is not, I repeat, NOT getting picked before Kansas in any conference realignment scenario.
XtoDC wrote:
Yeah, the Big Ten isn't going to choose to double up in Iowa.
Right now everyone is in a rush to put together four 16 team conferences, but I don't know how inevitable those really are. If each Big Ten team right now makes $25 M a year (or whatever it is), the next team they add has to increase that number per team by at least a couple million more. I don't think schools like Iowa State or Kansas would help in that respect.
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