Xer4ever wrote:Couple of thoughts. I appreciate anyone taking the time to put together a 5 year statistical analysis, however 5 yrs is not an adequate period of time time project future success because one great player such as McDermitt could have too much impact on results. I also realize the relevancy of recent success, but i believe 10 years of history will be more telling than 5 yrs.
Next, in this era of "it's all about NCAA Tournament success", no one is talking about the importance of Conference Championships. All three new additions to The League, had won their respective championships and were considered favorites to win more years than not. Dayton on the other hand, until 2013/14 was a 500 team in the A 10 for the last decade. Furthermore, I can't find when they last won a men's BB conference championship. In addition to all the criteria discussed, I'd hope expansion will be limited to proven Champions.
RDriesenUD wrote:Xer4ever wrote:Couple of thoughts. I appreciate anyone taking the time to put together a 5 year statistical analysis, however 5 yrs is not an adequate period of time time project future success because one great player such as McDermitt could have too much impact on results. I also realize the relevancy of recent success, but i believe 10 years of history will be more telling than 5 yrs.
Next, in this era of "it's all about NCAA Tournament success", no one is talking about the importance of Conference Championships. All three new additions to The League, had won their respective championships and were considered favorites to win more years than not. Dayton on the other hand, until 2013/14 was a 500 team in the A 10 for the last decade. Furthermore, I can't find when they last won a men's BB conference championship. In addition to all the criteria discussed, I'd hope expansion will be limited to proven Champions.
So, I guess you don't want UConn then. I mean, they have only been a co-champion of their conference once in the last 10 years. No outright championships. Also, they have seasons of 10-8, 8-10, 9-9, 7-11, and 6-10 in the last 10 years. I guess they aren't good enough. I mean, overall records and NCAA Tournament success don't matter as much as what you do in a conference, right?
hoyahooligan wrote:RDriesenUD wrote:Xer4ever wrote:Couple of thoughts. I appreciate anyone taking the time to put together a 5 year statistical analysis, however 5 yrs is not an adequate period of time time project future success because one great player such as McDermitt could have too much impact on results. I also realize the relevancy of recent success, but i believe 10 years of history will be more telling than 5 yrs.
Next, in this era of "it's all about NCAA Tournament success", no one is talking about the importance of Conference Championships. All three new additions to The League, had won their respective championships and were considered favorites to win more years than not. Dayton on the other hand, until 2013/14 was a 500 team in the A 10 for the last decade. Furthermore, I can't find when they last won a men's BB conference championship. In addition to all the criteria discussed, I'd hope expansion will be limited to proven Champions.
So, I guess you don't want UConn then. I mean, they have only been a co-champion of their conference once in the last 10 years. No outright championships. Also, they have seasons of 10-8, 8-10, 9-9, 7-11, and 6-10 in the last 10 years. I guess they aren't good enough. I mean, overall records and NCAA Tournament success don't matter as much as what you do in a conference, right?
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2 regular season championship 05 and 06 and 1 conference tournament championship (2 if we go to 11).
Plus 9 conference tournament championships(7 BE) and 29 regular season championships (10 BE).
Dayton on 2 conference tournament championships in their history. Your wikipedia article doesn't list regular season titles so no clue how many of those you've won if any.
hoyahooligan wrote:RDriesenUD wrote:Xer4ever wrote:Couple of thoughts. I appreciate anyone taking the time to put together a 5 year statistical analysis, however 5 yrs is not an adequate period of time time project future success because one great player such as McDermitt could have too much impact on results. I also realize the relevancy of recent success, but i believe 10 years of history will be more telling than 5 yrs.
Next, in this era of "it's all about NCAA Tournament success", no one is talking about the importance of Conference Championships. All three new additions to The League, had won their respective championships and were considered favorites to win more years than not. Dayton on the other hand, until 2013/14 was a 500 team in the A 10 for the last decade. Furthermore, I can't find when they last won a men's BB conference championship. In addition to all the criteria discussed, I'd hope expansion will be limited to proven Champions.
So, I guess you don't want UConn then. I mean, they have only been a co-champion of their conference once in the last 10 years. No outright championships. Also, they have seasons of 10-8, 8-10, 9-9, 7-11, and 6-10 in the last 10 years. I guess they aren't good enough. I mean, overall records and NCAA Tournament success don't matter as much as what you do in a conference, right?
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2 regular season championship 05 and 06 and 1 conference tournament championship (2 if we go to 11).
Plus 9 conference tournament championships(7 BE) and 29 regular season championships (10 BE).
Dayton on 2 conference tournament championships in their history. Your wikipedia article doesn't list regular season titles so no clue how many of those you've won if any.
hoyahooligan wrote:RDriesenUD wrote:Xer4ever wrote:Couple of thoughts. I appreciate anyone taking the time to put together a 5 year statistical analysis, however 5 yrs is not an adequate period of time time project future success because one great player such as McDermitt could have too much impact on results. I also realize the relevancy of recent success, but i believe 10 years of history will be more telling than 5 yrs.
Next, in this era of "it's all about NCAA Tournament success", no one is talking about the importance of Conference Championships. All three new additions to The League, had won their respective championships and were considered favorites to win more years than not. Dayton on the other hand, until 2013/14 was a 500 team in the A 10 for the last decade. Furthermore, I can't find when they last won a men's BB conference championship. In addition to all the criteria discussed, I'd hope expansion will be limited to proven Champions.
So, I guess you don't want UConn then. I mean, they have only been a co-champion of their conference once in the last 10 years. No outright championships. Also, they have seasons of 10-8, 8-10, 9-9, 7-11, and 6-10 in the last 10 years. I guess they aren't good enough. I mean, overall records and NCAA Tournament success don't matter as much as what you do in a conference, right?
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2 regular season championship 05 and 06 and 1 conference tournament championship (2 if we go to 11).
Plus 9 conference tournament championships(7 BE) and 29 regular season championships (10 BE).
Dayton on 2 conference tournament championships in their history. Your wikipedia article doesn't list regular season titles so no clue how many of those you've won if any.
Xer4ever wrote:So RD, I did go back further and here's what I found:
Conference Championships since 2000 Season/Tournament:
Butler- 9/5
Creighton- 4/7
Xavier- 7/3
Dayton- 0/0
Pretty telling, wouldn't you agree? FGCU is proof anybody can catch lightening in a bottle and make a surprise run in the Tournament. Big East doesn't need to expand but if it does, I hope it's with Schools who have a relevant history of winning Championships.
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