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Re: 2015 Gavitt Tip-Off Games

Postby DudeAnon » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:18 pm

hoyahooligan wrote:Well They got 1 match up right.

Georgetown will play Maryland location not known but probably at

Here's the rest of the slate:
Xavier @ Michigan
Creighton @ Ind
Rutgers @ St. John's
Ill @ Prov
Neb @ Nova
Penn St vs DePaul not sure of location
Iowa vs Marquette not sure of location

So basically you have 1 Great match up, 1 good match up in Xavier @ Michigan and then a bunch of mediocre to bad match ups.


Source? I thought it was Northwestern vs DePaul. And with 64 total games, a lot of matchups (good and bad) will be seen.
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Re: 2015 Gavitt Tip-Off Games

Postby stever20 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:19 pm

hoyahooligan wrote:Well They got 1 match up right.

Georgetown will play Maryland location not known but probably at

Here's the rest of the slate:
Xavier @ Michigan
Creighton @ Ind
Rutgers @ St. John's
Ill @ Prov
Neb @ Nova
Penn St vs DePaul not sure of location
Iowa vs Marquette not sure of location

So basically you have 1 Great match up, 1 good match up in Xavier @ Michigan and then a bunch of mediocre to bad match ups.


I'd say the Xavier/Michigan game is at least as good as Georgetown/Maryland. Michigan had a key guy return today and saw one person say they may be a top 10 team. So that's going to be a really good one. Creighton/Indiana and Iowa/Marquette good games to me- as is Illinois/Providence if Dunn returns. The other 3- not so much.

going back to what I said....
of the 7 top teams in that list- we get Illinois, Iowa, Indiana, Maryland, and Michigan.
of the 7 bottom teams in that list- we get Nebraska, Penn St, and Rutgers

The 6 that we don't get this year- Michigan St, Ohio St, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue, Wisconsin.
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Re: 2015 Gavitt Tip-Off Games

Postby GoldenWarrior11 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:26 pm

Well, it's only year one of the Gavitt Tip-off Games. Plenty of future years to get some intriguing matchups and quality opponents. With that being said, the inaugural games are very meh.
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Re: 2015 Gavitt Tip-Off Games

Postby hoyahooligan » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:56 pm

stever20 wrote:
hoyahooligan wrote:Well They got 1 match up right.

Georgetown will play Maryland location not known but probably at

Here's the rest of the slate:
Xavier @ Michigan
Creighton @ Ind
Rutgers @ St. John's
Ill @ Prov
Neb @ Nova
Penn St vs DePaul not sure of location
Iowa vs Marquette not sure of location

So basically you have 1 Great match up, 1 good match up in Xavier @ Michigan and then a bunch of mediocre to bad match ups.


I'd say the Xavier/Michigan game is at least as good as Georgetown/Maryland. Michigan had a key guy return today and saw one person say they may be a top 10 team. So that's going to be a really good one. Creighton/Indiana and Iowa/Marquette good games to me- as is Illinois/Providence if Dunn returns. The other 3- not so much.

going back to what I said....
of the 7 top teams in that list- we get Illinois, Iowa, Indiana, Maryland, and Michigan.
of the 7 bottom teams in that list- we get Nebraska, Penn St, and Rutgers

The 6 that we don't get this year- Michigan St, Ohio St, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue, Wisconsin.


Meh of the B10 teams we got the teams that finished: 2, 5, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13, 14 last year. Getting the 3 worst team in their conference in the first year stinks no matter how you cut it especially when we only get one of their top 3 teams. Even worse we get 2 of those 3 at home so not great for FS1.

Michigan will be better, but it's not guaranteed how much better, Xavier has a lot of question marks too. Iowa will be worse than last year, Indiana may still lose Ferrell (He's announcing on Friday his intentions), We don't know if Dunn will be back or not yet.

We got one match up or 2 vs 2 in terms of finishes from last year. Besides that we got: Thier 5 vs. our 9, 7 vs. 10, 8 vs. 4, 9 vs. 6, 12 vs 1, 14 vs 5, 13 vs 8.

I see 4 toss up games and 4 games we should win. The B10 might only be favored in 3 of their games: Maryland, Michigan, and Indiana.

It'll be very disappointing if the BE doesn't win this challenge given the match ups.
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Re: 2015 Gavitt Tip-Off Games

Postby stever20 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:44 pm

It's kind of stupid to look at previous years standings when looking at things. Michigan will be much improved and likely a preseason top 25 team conservatively- if not much higher. With how early the game is, it's definitely a major plus for Xavier. According to your logic, it'd be better for Xavier to be playing Wisconsin, and I just don't think that's true by any stretch of the imagination- not just at game time, but almost certainly the entire season.

You could make the case as well that they got 3 of our 4 worst teams in year 1. Probably something that hurt us was that Butler wasn't available. And even on the bottom layer Seton Hall probably being the strongest of the bottom 4 not being in didn't help as well.

Having said this- I think what we get this year is likely a normal year for the most part in terms of who is participating. We're never going to have a year where Wisconsin, Michigan St, Ohio St, Indiana, Maryland, etc. all participate. That's just never going to happen with the parameters that they set up for this.
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Re: 2015 Gavitt Tip-Off Games

Postby anXUfan » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:17 pm

Match ups were always going to vary year-to-year. I still love the concept overall.
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Re: 2015 Gavitt Tip-Off Games

Postby MUPanther » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:59 pm

Iowa at Marquette
Illinois at Providence
Xavier at Michigan
Creighton at Indiana
Are all better match-ups than some will give it credit for.
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Re: 2015 Gavitt Tip-Off Games

Postby hoyahooligan » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:12 pm

MUPanther wrote:Iowa at Marquette
Illinois at Providence
Xavier at Michigan
Creighton at Indiana
Are all better match-ups than some will give it credit for.


They just don't have the Pop that we could've gotten such as:

Xavier v Ohio St
Marquette v Indiana ( Crean vs his former school)
Creighton v Iowa
Seton Hall v Michigan (rematch of the 89 title game)
DePaul v Illinois
Providence v Minnesota ( Pitino vs. his alma mater and where his dad coached)
Nova v Michigan St
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Re: 2015 Gavitt Tip-Off Games

Postby stever20 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:27 pm

hoyahooligan wrote:
MUPanther wrote:Iowa at Marquette
Illinois at Providence
Xavier at Michigan
Creighton at Indiana
Are all better match-ups than some will give it credit for.


They just don't have the Pop that we could've gotten such as:

Xavier v Ohio St
Marquette v Indiana ( Crean vs his former school)
Creighton v Iowa
Seton Hall v Michigan (rematch of the 89 title game)
DePaul v Illinois
Providence v Minnesota ( Pitino vs. his alma mater and where his dad coached)
Nova v Michigan St


the thing is- we're NEVER going to have Ohio st, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Illinois, Minnesota, Michigan St, and Maryland all in the same year. Absolutely never. I don't know why you don't want to accept that fact. You should have known when they said 4 times in a 8 years minimum that pretty much it's going to be 4 for most of them, with only 6 teams getting a 5th game. So Never going to have all the top teams in the same year.
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Re: 2015 Gavitt Tip-Off Games

Postby hoyahooligan » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:28 pm

stever20 wrote:
hoyahooligan wrote:
MUPanther wrote:Iowa at Marquette
Illinois at Providence
Xavier at Michigan
Creighton at Indiana
Are all better match-ups than some will give it credit for.


They just don't have the Pop that we could've gotten such as:

Xavier v Ohio St
Marquette v Indiana ( Crean vs his former school)
Creighton v Iowa
Seton Hall v Michigan (rematch of the 89 title game)
DePaul v Illinois
Providence v Minnesota ( Pitino vs. his alma mater and where his dad coached)
Nova v Michigan St


the thing is- we're NEVER going to have Ohio st, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Illinois, Minnesota, Michigan St, and Maryland all in the same year. Absolutely never. I don't know why you don't want to accept that fact. You should have known when they said 4 times in a 8 years minimum that pretty much it's going to be 4 for most of them, with only 6 teams getting a 5th game. So Never going to have all the top teams in the same year.


Obviously and you wouldn't want them to put all their top teams in in a single year, because we want a team like DePaul to play a team on their level.

I was just using those as examples of games they could've done this year. You'd think if ever it were a year to make a splash with the matchups this was the year.

Even with out changing the teams participating this year they could've easily given us:


Indiana @ Marquette
Iowa @ Creighton
Villanova @ Penn St
DePaul @ Nebraska

Georgetown @ Maryland
Xavier @ Michigan
Rutgers @ St. John's
Illinois @ Providence

I think that's a better line up only changing half the games.
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