Gopher+RamFan wrote:They're not a slam dunk candidate because they're public, but they'd instantly be the hated team in conference (being public).
stever20 wrote:paulxu wrote:2 years, and 54 pages in this thread, and not a whole lot has changed from this article about possible candidates:
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basket ... -henderson
I dunno. SLU has since absolutely gone into the tank. And Dayton has 2 NCAA appearances since then, including an elite 8 run. 2 huge changes. Just do not think the Big East can add a SLU until SLU gets back to being at least competitive.
ta111 wrote:Yes, alot has changed since that article two years ago, particularly the direction the programs are headed in. Would the BE rather have a top 25 type program with alot of NCAA tourney success or a program that is unlikely to get that type of success for several years?
ta111 wrote:R Jay wrote:I find it amusing that Dayton fans feel the need to put down SLU (over one bad, rebuilding season, nonetheless). You must be really afraid that they'll be taken ahead of you and that you'll be left out in the cold again.
Now that I think about it, it's actually really, really sad.
It's called reality and facts. The facts are what they are and it is sad if some can't see it. SLU is a long way from where they were 2 years ago. Quite frankly, I don't care about getting in the BE as much as I care that the A10 bottom feeders improve. Dayton will most likely be a tourney team for the foreseeable future with or without the BE.
_lh wrote:This thread is 53 pages long so please excuse this question but does the BE have to expand past the 10 current teams? What would make the BE have to expand?
If they want to expand, they need to be very careful on who they select. UD/SLU/Richmond/VCU are bland and offer very little to the league that is doesn't already have.
I can see shooting for the stars in expansion by trying to get UCONN back in if UCONN finds a place for their crappy football team. I also don't see why if UCONN was added that the BE would have to add a 12th team, just to get to 12 teams. The B10 played with 11 teams for years.
As far as UD goes, in a vacuum they would have been a decent add to the conference before XU and Butler were selected. Now they make no sense at all. Sorry.
R Jay wrote:ta111 wrote:R Jay wrote:I find it amusing that Dayton fans feel the need to put down SLU (over one bad, rebuilding season, nonetheless). You must be really afraid that they'll be taken ahead of you and that you'll be left out in the cold again.
Now that I think about it, it's actually really, really sad.
It's called reality and facts. The facts are what they are and it is sad if some can't see it. SLU is a long way from where they were 2 years ago. Quite frankly, I don't care about getting in the BE as much as I care that the A10 bottom feeders improve. Dayton will most likely be a tourney team for the foreseeable future with or without the BE.
One, you should learn how to quote. Two, Dayton managed to improve after being a cellar dweller for years on end in the A-10. If you're only examining recent success and not what the program has done in the long term or what the program brings to the conference as a whole outside of sports, you're being extremely short-sighted and not looking at the whole picture.
Regardless, there's no reason to believe that SLU will stay down for long. They had a very young team and their most talented players were freshmen and 6 of their top 7 in their end of season rotation were freshmen or sophomores. But facts aren't you and your Dayton cohorts strong suit.
Also, if you don't care about getting into the Big East why are you here talking about Big East expansion?
R Jay wrote:ta111 wrote:R Jay wrote:I find it amusing that Dayton fans feel the need to put down SLU (over one bad, rebuilding season, nonetheless). You must be really afraid that they'll be taken ahead of you and that you'll be left out in the cold again.
Now that I think about it, it's actually really, really sad.
It's called reality and facts. The facts are what they are and it is sad if some can't see it. SLU is a long way from where they were 2 years ago. Quite frankly, I don't care about getting in the BE as much as I care that the A10 bottom feeders improve. Dayton will most likely be a tourney team for the foreseeable future with or without the BE.
One, you should learn how to quote. Two, Dayton managed to improve after being a cellar dweller for years on end in the A-10. If you're only examining recent success and not what the program has done in the long term or what the program brings to the conference as a whole outside of sports, you're being extremely short-sighted and not looking at the whole picture.
Regardless, there's no reason to believe that SLU will stay down for long. They had a very young team and their most talented players were freshmen and 6 of their top 7 in their end of season rotation were freshmen or sophomores. But facts aren't you and your Dayton cohorts strong suit.
Also, if you don't care about getting into the Big East why are you here talking about Big East expansion?
R Jay wrote:ta111 wrote:R Jay wrote:I find it amusing that Dayton fans feel the need to put down SLU (over one bad, rebuilding season, nonetheless). You must be really afraid that they'll be taken ahead of you and that you'll be left out in the cold again.
Now that I think about it, it's actually really, really sad.
It's called reality and facts. The facts are what they are and it is sad if some can't see it. SLU is a long way from where they were 2 years ago. Quite frankly, I don't care about getting in the BE as much as I care that the A10 bottom feeders improve. Dayton will most likely be a tourney team for the foreseeable future with or without the BE.
One, you should learn how to quote. Two, Dayton managed to improve after being a cellar dweller for years on end in the A-10. If you're only examining recent success and not what the program has done in the long term or what the program brings to the conference as a whole outside of sports, you're being extremely short-sighted and not looking at the whole picture.
Regardless, there's no reason to believe that SLU will stay down for long. They had a very young team and their most talented players were freshmen and 6 of their top 7 in their end of season rotation were freshmen or sophomores. But facts aren't you and your Dayton cohorts strong suit.
Also, if you don't care about getting into the Big East why are you here talking about Big East expansion?
R Jay wrote:ta111 wrote:R Jay wrote:I find it amusing that Dayton fans feel the need to put down SLU (over one bad, rebuilding season, nonetheless). You must be really afraid that they'll be taken ahead of you and that you'll be left out in the cold again.
Now that I think about it, it's actually really, really sad.
It's called reality and facts. The facts are what they are and it is sad if some can't see it. SLU is a long way from where they were 2 years ago. Quite frankly, I don't care about getting in the BE as much as I care that the A10 bottom feeders improve. Dayton will most likely be a tourney team for the foreseeable future with or without the BE.
One, you should learn how to quote. Two, Dayton managed to improve after being a cellar dweller for years on end in the A-10. If you're only examining recent success and not what the program has done in the long term or what the program brings to the conference as a whole outside of sports, you're being extremely short-sighted and not looking at the whole picture.
Regardless, there's no reason to believe that SLU will stay down for long. They had a very young team and their most talented players were freshmen and 6 of their top 7 in their end of season rotation were freshmen or sophomores. But facts aren't you and your Dayton cohorts strong suit.
Also, if you don't care about getting into the Big East why are you here talking about Big East expansion?
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