FCOA WAR COMMENCES Cincinnati pays $7434 FCOA

[NovaBall]

http://www.bigeast.com/genrel/120414aaa.html

At their meeting, the Presidents and Athletics Directors also discussed the new NCAA governance structure and the anticipated adoption of the first round of autonomy legislation at the NCAA Convention in January 2015. "Although the full details of the autonomy proposals have not been released, the BIG EAST is well-resourced and fully prepared to take any actions needed (including subsidizing the full cost of attendance) to meet the needs of our student-athletes and remain nationally competitive at the highest level in the sport of basketball, " said Commissioner Ackerman.

[robinreed]

http://www.bigeast.com/genrel/120414aaa.html

At their meeting, the Presidents and Athletics Directors also discussed the new NCAA governance structure and the anticipated adoption of the first round of autonomy legislation at the NCAA Convention in January 2015. "Although the full details of the autonomy proposals have not been released, the BIG EAST is well-resourced and fully prepared to take any actions needed (including subsidizing the full cost of attendance) to meet the needs of our student-athletes and remain nationally competitive at the highest level in the sport of basketball, " said Commissioner Ackerman.

NovaBall,

I fully believe Val meant what she said at the time of her statement but the problem is that in all the other conferences each individual school decides what they will pay. I must assume it will be the same in the BE. An example is the B12 in which Texas Tech pays $5100 and WVU pays only $1970. Or the ACC where Louisville pays over $5200 whilst BC pays only $1400. Why should Nova not be allowed to pay more if it helps their recruiting just because DePaul may not be able to pay that same amount?

I feel certain we can remain nationally competitive as a conference as Val stated however some of us may choose to be more competitive than others.

Again I would like to ask if anyone at any of our member schools has heard what their schools have decided to pay in FCOA? Have their been any school specific announcements? I would be worried if none of our universities have made a decision on this matter. It may well be time for action.

[NovaBall]

Each school setting their own allocation is fine with me. We aren't talking about million dollar or even hundred thousands of dollars bidding wars. Even the big spenders are below $500 per month over the course of the calendar year.

And I don't think that some of the private schools at lower amounts is that big a deal. There are a lot of other benefits for a student athlete to want to attend a school like Boston college over a school like pitt that go well beyond a couple hundred dollars a month.

[robinreed]

Each school setting their own allocation is fine with me. We aren't talking about million dollar or even hundred thousands of dollars bidding wars. Even the big spenders are below $500 per month over the course of the calendar year.

And I don't think that some of the private schools at lower amounts is that big a deal. There are a lot of other benefits for a student athlete to want to attend a school like Boston college over a school like pitt that go well beyond a couple hundred dollars a month.

We both agree that the schools should be permitted to set their own amount for FCOA. I also agree there are special benefits in attending a private university I attended X and I presume your attending Nova speaks to our shared commitment to private education. However we may disagree on the value of those benefits for athletes who are there only for the sports and not the education. If they drop out early to apply for the NBA draft we must question their commitment to education and for those a few hundred $$$ per month may be an obvious advantage.

However I must conclude those scholar-athletes (?) are less interested in their schools than themselves and have little respect for "other benefits". Still there will be some difference in quality of recruits even for only a few hundred dollars a month. How much difference can only be guessed.

By the way I am not condemning athletes who are only interested in preparing for pro basketball and not education. The NBA should run a genuine "D" league for high school grads rather than the sham one they currently have.

[BEwannabe]

I have a jr at a very respected liberal arts school (to some that's an oxymoron) and she'll earn $400 a week this summer doing research for a Biology prof. Basketball players may not be as smart as she is but they sure put in as many hours and will earn a lot less and yes she's on 50% merit scholarship so the well they get a 100% scholarship to play hoops argument doesn't hold up for me. With kids this age $200-400 a month seems a reasonable amount when you consider they don't have other expenses but having cell ph, clothes, BW3/chipolte & gas money put them on par with the rest of the student body if there parents don't have money.

[robinreed]

HORIZON LEAGUE WILL PAY FULL COST OF ATTENDANCE.

The Horizon has announced all members will pay FCOA however the amounts specific to each school have NOT been released.

Please see announcement: http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/horiz ... attendance

I have looked but can not find any specifics re the Big East on FCOA. I guess we will learn when they decide to tell us. Perhaps the schools in our conference have decided not to release the information. I know of no law which requires it in private non profit schools. If so it is not a sapient policy. Please post any information you have on Big East FCOA here as I feel it is important to our future sports programs. Not critical mind you but important.

[Hoyas]

I think it's pretty much a must they tell us.

One thing from the original story:
The numbers are based on a nine-month academic calendar. Players who stay for summer school could receive three more months of payments

So 5666 is 145 per week or 580 per month
3000 is 100 per week or 400 per month
2600 is 67 per week or 268 per month
1300 is 33 per week or 132 per month

I'd say there's a HUGE difference between 5666 and 1300. 450 per month. And yes that could make a huge difference in recruiting...

[BEwannabe]

I think I'm on to it. Pell Grant
Maximum Pell Grant is currently $5730 and Pell Grant from a student standpoint is based on need and from the academic institution side is based on fcoa if I'm understanding it correctly.
UD Pell Grant averages $3755 and interestingly enough I figured UD would pay $300 - 400 per month. What I don't get is how all the SEC schools fcoa for Pell is over $5000, that's nonsense but again if I'm reading this right the burden is going to be on Admssions and financial aid folks and they're going to be under big pressure.

[BEwannabe]

this from univ of Tennessee site, so Tennessee is basically going to give every fcoa athlete almost max as it relates to Pell Grant even though they recognize that's not how other students in the general population have their fcoa determined. Looks like a situation ripe for litigation for state schools. I'm confident private schools will approach this in a more disciplined fashion because it's in our dna.

Federal Pell Grant

The Federal Pell Grant is a federal aid program designed to provide financial assistance to those who need it to attend post-secondary educational institutions. These grants are intended to be the foundation of a financial aid package and may be combined with other forms of aid in order to meet full costs of education. The amount is determined on the basis of student and family financial resources. The amount of aid a student can receive depends on financial need, cost of attendance, and more. This is gift aid and usually does not have to be repaid.

For the 2015–16 award year, the maximum Pell Grant award will be $5,775. Some students may qualify for less than the maximum amount, and some students may not qualify for the Pell Grant at all. Students should consult their FAFSA information and a financial aid counselor to determine how much, if any, Pell Grant funding they can expect.

[robinreed]

LIBERTY COLLEGE A PRIVATE RELIGIOUS SCHOOL IN LYNCHBURG, VA WILL PAY FCOA

Liberty College today stated they will pay FCOA for athletics. The exact amount has not been disclosed.
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Liberty is First FCS School to Pay FCOA
Sources told FootballScoop tonight that Liberty, an FCS program located in Lynchburg Virginia, will become the first FCS program to provide “cost of attendance” dollars to their athletes.


Following the “power five” conferences’ lead, Liberty, which has been rumored to be looking to move up, is taking the bold step of possibly being the only FCS program to cover these costs, which some estimates project at nearly $2 million to the university.


Sources tell FootballScoop that Liberty has begun to inform their student athletes of the decision and will begin making the payments this Fall.

http://footballscoop.com/news/source...of-attendance/