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Re: Head Coach Job Openings List...

Postby HoosierPal » Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:58 pm

billyjack wrote:Figured it would be good to have a list of head coach job openings...

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Forbes from Wichita State

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25125144/wichita-state-assistant-steve-forbes-to-be-next-head-coach-at-etsu
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Re: Head Coach Job Openings List...

Postby Bill Marsh » Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:06 pm

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XtoDC wrote:Why do people always think that the Miller's are dying to coach at Pittsburgh? I get that they are from there but is there any insider information that causes people to believe this? That was always the thought process with Sean, and he never would have left Xavier for Pittsburgh. I would be absolutely shocked if Archie left for Pitt. I think he is totally fine at Dayton until a top 10 - 15 job opens up and that school makes a serious push for him.

Dayton isn't some scummy job that Archie is trying to leave. They have proven they can have success, they can get decent recruits, they have a great fanbase, they have good facilities, they can pay the man. Why would he leave for a top 50ish job? Why would he go to an ACC school where he can hope to finish 4th every year behind Duke, UNC, and Louisville (assuming Syracuse is taking a step back or every school would be hoping for 5th)?


Pretty fair post here by a Xavier fan (I assume).

Supposedly, off the VCU message board, Shaka just turned down 3 million a year at Alabama. No way to verify that other then by a tweet someone posted but if true, it further reinforces the changing landscape of college basketball. There are the Top 15 programs (UK, UNC, Duke, Louisville, ect, ect, ect) and then the smaller schools are actually showing an advantage over some of the middling to lower end P5 schools. Any coach at a VCU, Dayton, Xavier, Witchita St, ect turning down 3 million a year to coach in the SEC would have been unheard of 10 years ago. But these coaches at many of these non P5 schools have every bit of a chance if not more to make a FF then they do at an Alabama or Tennessee.

Here's a decent article on coaching in the NCAA. Archie is mentioned a lot and Mack a few times.

http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content ... _3-26.html


it also says that Shaka isn't going anywhere unless he's completely blown away . . . which makes VCU a top program for a long time to come. Any league thinking expansion can't go wrong with them right now.
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Re: Head Coach Job Openings List...

Postby billyjack » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:17 pm

Thanks guys for the coaching updates.
It's like a full time job updating the list.
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Re: Head Coach Job Openings List...

Postby Wizard of Westroads » Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:41 am

it further reinforces the changing landscape of college basketball. There are the Top 15 programs (UK, UNC, Duke, Louisville, ect, ect, ect) and then the smaller schools are actually showing an advantage over some of the middling to lower end P5 schools. Any coach at a VCU, Dayton, Xavier, Witchita St, ect turning down 3 million a year to coach in the SEC would have been unheard of 10 years ago. But these coaches at many of these non P5 schools have every bit of a chance if not more to make a FF then they do at an Alabama or Tennessee.

I agree that coaches may be changing their thinking on how to succeed. Really, what's the point of going to Mississippi State or Nebraska or Oregon State? You get some nice dinero for a few years but you end up a failure. There are a handful of blueblood schools where you can really make it big, and a second level (Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, Oklahoma) where you can be consistently top 25 and make some big bucks. You might be better off waiting for one of those, rather than take the lower tier and ultimately fail against a stacked deck.

Changing subjects slightly, Syracuse and UConn have been in the blueblood category for a long time, but how many think those programs continue at the top level with Boeheim and Calhoun gone? UConn seems doomed to become a mid-level program because it got left out of realignment. Maybe Syracuse can stay at the top, but are they really going to be that great in the ACC with Duke and NC? Not saying they'll be a bottom feeder, just not a perennial top 10.
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Re: Head Coach Job Openings List...

Postby Bill Marsh » Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:52 am

Wizard of Westroads wrote:
it further reinforces the changing landscape of college basketball. There are the Top 15 programs (UK, UNC, Duke, Louisville, ect, ect, ect) and then the smaller schools are actually showing an advantage over some of the middling to lower end P5 schools. Any coach at a VCU, Dayton, Xavier, Witchita St, ect turning down 3 million a year to coach in the SEC would have been unheard of 10 years ago. But these coaches at many of these non P5 schools have every bit of a chance if not more to make a FF then they do at an Alabama or Tennessee.

I agree that coaches may be changing their thinking on how to succeed. Really, what's the point of going to Mississippi State or Nebraska or Oregon State? You get some nice dinero for a few years but you end up a failure. There are a handful of blueblood schools where you can really make it big, and a second level (Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, Oklahoma) where you can be consistently top 25 and make some big bucks. You might be better off waiting for one of those, rather than take the lower tier and ultimately fail against a stacked deck.

Changing subjects slightly, Syracuse and UConn have been in the blueblood category for a long time, but how many think those programs continue at the top level with Boeheim and Calhoun gone? UConn seems doomed to become a mid-level program because it got left out of realignment. Maybe Syracuse can stay at the top, but are they really going to be that great in the ACC with Duke and NC? Not saying they'll be a bottom feeder, just not a perennial top 10.


Great point about the football schools. 8-)

I think money does matter to these coaches and they all believe they can succeed where others have failed. I think they all feel compelled to grab for the brass ring when they have the chance. There's a lot of insecurity in the business with the worry that it will all disappear as fast as it arrived. Their hope is to do what Billy Donovan has done at Florida, as a big a football factory as there is, or what Nolan Richardson did at Arkansas back in the '90's.

I think that Syracuse and UConn can both continue to succeed. There's more to those programs than the coach. In fact, the case can be made that Syracuse succeeded in spite of Boeheim and not because of him. Ollie seems to be the real deal at UConn and Syracuse will have to get the right guy to replace Boeheim. All of the pieces are in place at those programs for the winning to continue as long as the next guy doesn't screw it up.
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Re: Head Coach Job Openings List...

Postby R Jay » Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:59 am

Bill Marsh wrote:
Wizard of Westroads wrote:
it further reinforces the changing landscape of college basketball. There are the Top 15 programs (UK, UNC, Duke, Louisville, ect, ect, ect) and then the smaller schools are actually showing an advantage over some of the middling to lower end P5 schools. Any coach at a VCU, Dayton, Xavier, Witchita St, ect turning down 3 million a year to coach in the SEC would have been unheard of 10 years ago. But these coaches at many of these non P5 schools have every bit of a chance if not more to make a FF then they do at an Alabama or Tennessee.

I agree that coaches may be changing their thinking on how to succeed. Really, what's the point of going to Mississippi State or Nebraska or Oregon State? You get some nice dinero for a few years but you end up a failure. There are a handful of blueblood schools where you can really make it big, and a second level (Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, Oklahoma) where you can be consistently top 25 and make some big bucks. You might be better off waiting for one of those, rather than take the lower tier and ultimately fail against a stacked deck.

Changing subjects slightly, Syracuse and UConn have been in the blueblood category for a long time, but how many think those programs continue at the top level with Boeheim and Calhoun gone? UConn seems doomed to become a mid-level program because it got left out of realignment. Maybe Syracuse can stay at the top, but are they really going to be that great in the ACC with Duke and NC? Not saying they'll be a bottom feeder, just not a perennial top 10.


Great point about the football schools. 8-)

I think money does matter to these coaches and they all believe they can succeed where others have failed. I think they all feel compelled to grab for the brass ring when they have the chance. There's a lot of insecurity in the business with the worry that it will all disappear as fast as it arrived. Their hope is to do what Billy Donovan has done at Florida, as a big a football factory as there is.

I think that Syracuse and UConn can both continue to succeed. There's more to those programs than the coach. In fact, the case can be made that Syracuse succeeded in spite of Boeheim and not because of him. Ollie seems to be the real deal at UConn and Syracuse will have to get the right guy to replace Boeheim. All of the pieces are in place at those programs for the winning to continue as long as the next guy doesn't screw it up.

I'm totally in agreement, Bill and Wizard.
As these F5 conferences grow, it becomes harder and harder for the bottom teams to get out of the cellar. Just like how the Big East used to be. Why as a coach would you leave a successful mid-major where you have ample resources, the ability to continually make the NCAA Tournament, and a good salary for a program that continually struggles to compete? Sure you could potentially turn it around, but three other coaches thought that they could too and failed.
I'm in agreement that Syracuse should stay at the top of the ACC without Boeheim, but I'm not convinced about UCONN if the American does not improve or they do not get an invite to the F5. How long can you sell the program in the AAC to recruits?
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Re: Head Coach Job Openings List...

Postby Hoyas » Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:04 pm

Regarding realignment for UConn- conference affiliation in basketball is much more meaningless than it ever is in football. See Gonzaga who is one of the top 15 programs despite being in the WCC. Or how Memphis was in C-USA starting in 2006. So to say UConn will automatically fall off the face of the earth because they are in the AAC is rather foolish.

I would even say look at Butler when they were in the Horizon. Horizon didn't stop them from making 2 title game appearances in a row now did it?
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Re: Head Coach Job Openings List...

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:19 am

Alabama AD to meet with Wichita State coach Gregg Marshall (Gary Parrish, CBS Sports - March 30, 2015)

The Tuscaloosa News is also reporting the meeting between Battle and Marshall. Sources have told CBSSports.com Alabama's offer will be in excess of $3 million per year and that the school could present a package approaching six years and $20-plus million.
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Re: Head Coach Job Openings List...

Postby BEX » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:01 pm

Texas apparently has $3 million a yr for right guy, Usual suspects:

http://texas.247sports.com/Article/Texa ... e-36505583
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Re: Head Coach Job Openings List...

Postby admin » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:29 pm

Shake Smart in discussions with Texas per Jon Rothstein.
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