Steve Lavin wrote:4. Been watching lots of NCAA Tourney shows and they all seem to have one thing in common: they complain about the G'Town seed, they complain about the Xavier seed, they think SJU is an automatic loss, they think Nova is overrated, they said Butler has not faced real athletic teams (they swept SJU a very athletic team), etc. If anyone thought some of us were nuts for sensing anti-Big East bias in the mainstream sports media, there should be no doubt left after tonight. The Big East was expected to fall off the face of the earth and a documentary was made by ESPN that made it seem like a eulogy. Well, we proved everyone wrong and got 6 (60%) of the teams in. 6 out of freaking 10 while doing great out of conference. In a normal, objective world where bias didn't exist, there would be a 15 minute segment about how the Big East never really left. I haven't heard any analysts say "Hey, we have to give them credit, they were not expected to be this good after all those other schools left". Only one analyst on CBS fought back for us and said "I don't think you can question the Big East getting 6 in…they all were solidly in and all deserve it". This was after another analyst said "The committee probably could have trimmed some tourney teams off the Big East". I was expecting them to all be honest and say "Wow, the Big East is still a premier conference and has lots of quality teams". But nope. They still act as if the schools with football and 40,000 students are automatically superior.
DudeAnon wrote:Steve Lavin wrote:4. Been watching lots of NCAA Tourney shows and they all seem to have one thing in common: they complain about the G'Town seed, they complain about the Xavier seed, they think SJU is an automatic loss, they think Nova is overrated, they said Butler has not faced real athletic teams (they swept SJU a very athletic team), etc. If anyone thought some of us were nuts for sensing anti-Big East bias in the mainstream sports media, there should be no doubt left after tonight. The Big East was expected to fall off the face of the earth and a documentary was made by ESPN that made it seem like a eulogy. Well, we proved everyone wrong and got 6 (60%) of the teams in. 6 out of freaking 10 while doing great out of conference. In a normal, objective world where bias didn't exist, there would be a 15 minute segment about how the Big East never really left. I haven't heard any analysts say "Hey, we have to give them credit, they were not expected to be this good after all those other schools left". Only one analyst on CBS fought back for us and said "I don't think you can question the Big East getting 6 in…they all were solidly in and all deserve it". This was after another analyst said "The committee probably could have trimmed some tourney teams off the Big East". I was expecting them to all be honest and say "Wow, the Big East is still a premier conference and has lots of quality teams". But nope. They still act as if the schools with football and 40,000 students are automatically superior.
Really agree with this point. I never really bought the bias against the Big East until tonight. Analyst after analyst chose BE teams to go down early. Not just choosing them to not pull of upsets etc, but to outright be upset in very beginning. They seem to forget that we basically dominated the OOC. Oh well, good thing the Selection Committee doesn't rely on the "Bias Test" (except for UCLA)
SJU1987 wrote:Obekpa was suspended for Pot use. He'll rejoin the team in the second round if they get past SDSU. I read the Aztecs are offensively challenged.
The same thing happened to SJU in 2002. One of their players tested for Pot right before the NCAA. The player was Willie Shaw. He later became a member of the Harlem Globe trotters. Slick Willie Shaw.
Jet915 wrote:SJU1987 wrote:Obekpa was suspended for Pot use. He'll rejoin the team in the second round if they get past SDSU. I read the Aztecs are offensively challenged.
The same thing happened to SJU in 2002. One of their players tested for Pot right before the NCAA. The player was Willie Shaw. He later became a member of the Harlem Globe trotters. Slick Willie Shaw.
If true, why is it being reported as 2 weeks?
stever20 wrote:You see though, we didn't dominate the OOC. We were 94-31. Good, but hardly dominating. That's why we got a bunch of 6 seeds.
I think it's going to be pretty challenging to get more than Nova in the sweet 16....
Xavier would have to beat Baylor.
St John's would have to beat Duke.
Providence would have to beat Oklahoma
Georgetown would have to beat Utah.
Butler would have to beat Notre Dame
I don't think Vegas would have us as a favorite at all in any of those games. Maybe the Georgetown game. But that's it. Also heard one of the ESPN folks saying they like the Nova bracket for Nova.
DudeAnon wrote:stever20 wrote:You see though, we didn't dominate the OOC. We were 94-31. Good, but hardly dominating. That's why we got a bunch of 6 seeds.
I think it's going to be pretty challenging to get more than Nova in the sweet 16....
Xavier would have to beat Baylor.
St John's would have to beat Duke.
Providence would have to beat Oklahoma
Georgetown would have to beat Utah.
Butler would have to beat Notre Dame
I don't think Vegas would have us as a favorite at all in any of those games. Maybe the Georgetown game. But that's it. Also heard one of the ESPN folks saying they like the Nova bracket for Nova.
I said that that I am glad the selection committee isn't biased, so I am fine with the seeds. I am just talking gut reactions. A lot of these picks are done with very little knowledge of the actual teams but rather their reputation. It is obvious that most of the "Experts" still do not respect the Big East. Luckily, we can prove them wrong this week.
stever20 wrote:DudeAnon wrote:Steve Lavin wrote:4. Been watching lots of NCAA Tourney shows and they all seem to have one thing in common: they complain about the G'Town seed, they complain about the Xavier seed, they think SJU is an automatic loss, they think Nova is overrated, they said Butler has not faced real athletic teams (they swept SJU a very athletic team), etc. If anyone thought some of us were nuts for sensing anti-Big East bias in the mainstream sports media, there should be no doubt left after tonight. The Big East was expected to fall off the face of the earth and a documentary was made by ESPN that made it seem like a eulogy. Well, we proved everyone wrong and got 6 (60%) of the teams in. 6 out of freaking 10 while doing great out of conference. In a normal, objective world where bias didn't exist, there would be a 15 minute segment about how the Big East never really left. I haven't heard any analysts say "Hey, we have to give them credit, they were not expected to be this good after all those other schools left". Only one analyst on CBS fought back for us and said "I don't think you can question the Big East getting 6 in…they all were solidly in and all deserve it". This was after another analyst said "The committee probably could have trimmed some tourney teams off the Big East". I was expecting them to all be honest and say "Wow, the Big East is still a premier conference and has lots of quality teams". But nope. They still act as if the schools with football and 40,000 students are automatically superior.
Really agree with this point. I never really bought the bias against the Big East until tonight. Analyst after analyst chose BE teams to go down early. Not just choosing them to not pull of upsets etc, but to outright be upset in very beginning. They seem to forget that we basically dominated the OOC. Oh well, good thing the Selection Committee doesn't rely on the "Bias Test" (except for UCLA)
You see though, we didn't dominate the OOC. We were 94-31. Good, but hardly dominating. That's why we got a bunch of 6 seeds.
I think it's going to be pretty challenging to get more than Nova in the sweet 16....
Xavier would have to beat Baylor.
St John's would have to beat Duke.
Providence would have to beat Oklahoma
Georgetown would have to beat Utah.
Butler would have to beat Notre Dame
I don't think Vegas would have us as a favorite at all in any of those games. Maybe the Georgetown game. But that's it. Also heard one of the ESPN folks saying they like the Nova bracket for Nova.
SJU1987 wrote:Obekpa was suspended for Pot use.
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