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Postby Jet915 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:34 pm

Demon22 wrote:There's either an incredible comeback, or it's the last five minutes of the Oliver Purnell Era.

Either way, DePaul wins.


One can only hope, I doubt Purnell goes anywhere.
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Postby stever20 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:40 pm

given that he got a commitment today from a recruit- don't see it happening.....
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Re: 2015 BE Tourney - 2 Wednesday Games...

Postby RedStormHoops » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:51 pm

Step one of creightons dream run is complete.

They will refer to this team as the "Dream Jays" when all is said and done
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Postby R Jay » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:53 pm

RedStormHoops wrote:Step one of creightons dream run is complete.

They will refer to this team as the "Dream Jays" when all is said and done

LOL. Just a bit too soon. Georgetown is going to be a tough test tomorrow. Hope they won't take us seriously.
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Postby RedStormHoops » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:57 pm

R Jay wrote:
RedStormHoops wrote:Step one of creightons dream run is complete.

They will refer to this team as the "Dream Jays" when all is said and done

LOL. Just a bit too soon. Georgetown is going to be a tough test tomorrow. Hope they won't take us seriously.



Lol. May be wishful thinking on my part but an upset against Georgetown and this starts to get interesting I'll be rooting for the jays.
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Postby R Jay » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:05 pm

I'd love a rematch with Xavier or Butler in the semis considering how close we've played them, but Georgetown has manhandled us twice now, so I'm not confident.
Funny, I'm pulling for St. John's to dispatch Providence and Nova to get away from the 8/9 game and the 1 seed in the round of 32. If they could avoid the top 6 teams (minus Nova, of course) in the tournament (UK, UVA, Duke, Zona, and Wisky), they could really make a run.
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Postby dmac80 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:31 pm

12,588 for night 1. 13,177 last year.
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Postby XUFan09 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:11 am

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dmac80 wrote:The win is counted baed in how each team they beat tends at the end of the season right? Like someone who beat Seton Hall when they were ranked, do they get credit for a top 25 win or only a top 100 win since SHU finished 93?

Just end of season. So it'd just be a top 100 win.

Similarly if a team was when you played them #108 and now they're #86, that also counts as a top 100 win.

But what a lot of people don't appreciate is how in-depth the Selection Committee goes. Each conference has three Committee members following it and they give weekly reports throughout the season. The ones covering the Big East are well-aware of how good Seton Hall was and how far they fell, and they would relay that information to the rest of the Committee when it comes to games played before the meltdown.

The Committee really knows more about the basketball landscape than the media supposedly charged with covering it, which is part of the reason why Jay Bilas' call for "basketball people" on the Committee is so laughable (the other part of the reason is simply that he's an arrogant was). The example I always like is Oregon State this season. They might not even be in the top 100, but they've only lost two games at home, to Utah and Oregon, while beating some good teams. Because the Pac-12 Committee members know that and will relay the info, Utah and Oregon will get a lot more credit for beating Oregon State than one would expect and others won't be as hurt by the loss for the same reason.
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Postby PorthosPA » Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:13 am

RedStormHoops wrote:Step one of creightons dream run is complete.

They will refer to this team as the "Dream Jays" when all is said and done


This is as a Xavier fan- If Creighton wins this tourney, and then subsequently become a craw in the side of Xavier in the next year or two, I will have no choice but to call them the "Cream Jays" or the "Blue Jizz"

Godspeed otherwise.
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Re: 2015 BE Tourney - 2 Wednesday Games...

Postby stever20 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:32 am

XUFan09 wrote:
stever20 wrote:
dmac80 wrote:The win is counted baed in how each team they beat tends at the end of the season right? Like someone who beat Seton Hall when they were ranked, do they get credit for a top 25 win or only a top 100 win since SHU finished 93?

Just end of season. So it'd just be a top 100 win.

Similarly if a team was when you played them #108 and now they're #86, that also counts as a top 100 win.

But what a lot of people don't appreciate is how in-depth the Selection Committee goes. Each conference has three Committee members following it and they give weekly reports throughout the season. The ones covering the Big East are well-aware of how good Seton Hall was and how far they fell, and they would relay that information to the rest of the Committee when it comes to games played before the meltdown.

The Committee really knows more about the basketball landscape than the media supposedly charged with covering it, which is part of the reason why Jay Bilas' call for "basketball people" on the Committee is so laughable (the other part of the reason is simply that he's an arrogant was). The example I always like is Oregon State this season. They might not even be in the top 100, but they've only lost two games at home, to Utah and Oregon, while beating some good teams. Because the Pac-12 Committee members know that and will relay the info, Utah and Oregon will get a lot more credit for beating Oregon State than one would expect and others won't be as hurt by the loss for the same reason.


What I'm talking about though are the things like records vs top 100 teams that you see quoted all the time. That's something that is really static. Prime Example right now is Long Beach St. They are 102. So right now they count as a sub 100 win and a sub 100 loss for Xavier. Not helpful at all. Now, if they can get up 2 spots, they become a top 100 win, and a sub 100 loss comes off the board. When you are splitting hairs, that becomes huge.

Also for Seton Hall- a lot of their slide had to do with playing the meat of their schedule. They had a 7 game stretch with playing 6 NCAA tourney teams. That's not a meltdown, that's just playing tougher teams.

You do realize Oregon St is 16-14 against the 101st best schedule? They aren't even close to being in the top 100 and no teams won't be overly rewarded for beating them there or others hurt less for losing to them.
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