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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby Bill Marsh » Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:44 pm

Xudash wrote:
stever20 wrote:No. The AAC is far better of a league than the MAC is. You don't want to acknowledge that at all. If Tulsa wins today and beats Temple for a 3rd time in the SF- it's tough for me to see any scenario where Tulsa would be out. Tulsa would be 24-9.


Tulsa lost.


As was to be expected.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby DudeAnon » Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:46 pm

Considering we have no bubble teams, can we close this thread?
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby Bill Marsh » Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:04 pm

gosports1 wrote:
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gosports1 wrote:i hope im wrong but i got a feeling Xavier is in danger of being the team this year thatis left out and everyone is wondering why. There is always at least one that is deserving but doesnt make it in for one reason or another.
A strong showing in the BE tourney i think will change that. If they are 1 and done in the BE i will be concerned


No chance Xavier is left out. Who do you think they'll take instead? :?



could be anyone on the bubble. Texas, ODU, Tulsa anyone that pulls upset in tourney and thus knocks off the favorite (belmont/murray state)
Im not predicting it. jsut seems to happen every year that someone is left out. Is 19-12 good enough? If so is 19-12 in BE better than 19-12 in say the B12 or B10? I think we all would say yes, not sure if the committee would. Maybe im being too pessimistic. i just dont want to be disappointed


I would agree with you if I thought Xavier were on the bubble. I don't. I think they're solidly in to the extent that they're safe even from unexpected tournament upsets.

After yesterday's win, Texas is probably in as well, so even if they win the Big XII, they're taking a spot they would have gotten anyway.

If ODU wins CUSA, who's left in CUSA that's going at-large? No one.

If Tulsa wins the AAC, they'll displace someone, but it won't be Xavier. It's. Teams like Richmond, UCLA, Mississippi, and Oklahoma State that should be worried.

What makes this year different is that there aren't secondary conferences with teams strong enough to go even if they're upset in their conference tournament. CUSA is a perfect example. It's a 1-bid league and either ODU or LA Tech better win their tournament if they want to go.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby stever20 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:09 pm

ODU could have been interesting had VCU not gone into the tank lately..

Speaking of shock team getting knocked out- what about VCU? Especially if they lose in the 1st rd to I guess Fordham or George Mason.

I saw something like only 10 possible bid thieves left.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby Wheelhouse » Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:26 pm

stever20 wrote:wow, didn't realize the MAC had snuck up to #10(that speaks more to how the MWC and MVC have fallen off quite frankly).

Problem with Buffalo is they have 4 sub 100 losses, and 0 top 50 wins. Tulsa on the other hand has 2 sub 100 losses(well 1 and then the D2 loss) and 2 top 50 wins.

I think if Tulsa can win make the title game they would have a really good shot. 1st rd against Tulane I guess now(which is the best record of all the bad teams)- and then SF against either #3 Cincy or #6 UConn(at UConn). They're still #47 RPI even after today.


Dude, you really love Tulsa. Is your uncle an assistant there or something?
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby Bearcat_Bounce » Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:23 pm

The AAC will get 3 teams in the NCAA tournament. Cincinnati and SMU will be solidly in the field and Temple will be playing in Dayton. Tulsa, Memphis and UConn will be in the NIT.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby Edrick » Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:30 pm

Temple is SUPER tenuous. All it would take is the wrong team or two winning some games in a major conference tournament - something that happens every single year.

At least it won't be a one bid league, as it looked a couple months ago. But, 2 is certainly still on the table, if not likely.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby stever20 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:53 pm

Edrick wrote:Temple is SUPER tenuous. All it would take is the wrong team or two winning some games in a major conference tournament - something that happens every single year.

At least it won't be a one bid league, as it looked a couple months ago. But, 2 is certainly still on the table, if not likely.

I don't see Temple as all that tenuous. If they beat Memphis, it's pretty much a lock. They have a 32 RPI right now.

I think a team that is far more tenuous is BYU. They don't get a chance at a good win vs St Mary's now- and a loss to Portland would be an absolute killer. I think it's safe to say that a win for Temple over Memphis, followed by loss to SMU would move Temple ahead of BYU with win over Portland loss to Gonzaga.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby Catscratchy » Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:36 am

Temple is just 8-9 vs the rpi top 200. That's just 8 top 200 wins. Seems tenuous to me.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby stever20 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:07 am

Catscratchy wrote:Temple is just 8-9 vs the rpi top 200. That's just 8 top 200 wins. Seems tenuous to me.


look at BYU though-
4 top 100 wins, 3 sub 100 losses. 41 RPI
Temple-
6 top 100 wins, 1 sub 100 loss. 32 RPI

BYU with win over Portland/loss to Gonzaga doesn't add anything
Temple with win over Memphis/loss to SMU adds a 7th top 100 win

Profiles like BYU get left out a whole lot more often than Temple's.
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