Tue March 3rd, 2g, GU-Butler, VU-CU...

[stever20]

From Wikipedia- here's the definition of flopping:
In basketball, a flop is an intentional fall by a player after little or no physical contact by an opposing player in order to draw a personal foul call by an official against the opponent.[1] The move is sometimes called acting, as in "acting as if he was fouled". Because it is inherently designed to deceive the official, flopping is generally considered to be unsportsmanlike. Nonetheless, it is widely practiced and even perfected by many professional players.

If that wasn't a flop, I don't know what is. He totally would be fined in the NBA.

[Dew]

https://vine.co/v/O0XVg1TOxtt

Just another laughable call by BE officials.

sad the lack of chatter on this site about the Georgetown v Butler game. More talk about UVA than either team.

Pretty funny. Before I even watched the video, I thought, "Which guy will it be, Barlow or Dunham?"

Unbiased opinion here but Dunham and Arch get bailed out by flailing more than anyone I can remember. I'm surprised they don't get whiplash with all the head jerk reactions they do everytime they get touched. I hate that type of basketball.

[Dew]

And a delayed follow up on the games last night. Butler looks spent to me. I think they could fall to the 8/9 ncaa game and be out in the first round. Hope I'm wrong.

Villanova is only as good as their 3 point shooting. Pinkston and Ochefu were nonexistent. I hope they get a good ncaa draw but I'm worried like heck for them.

[stever20]

And a delayed follow up on the games last night. Butler looks spent to me. I think they could fall to the 8/9 ncaa game and be out in the first round. Hope I'm wrong.

Villanova is only as good as their 3 point shooting. Pinkston and Ochefu were nonexistent. I hope they get a good ncaa draw but I'm worried like heck for them.

Totally agree with you on Butler. Also would say there was a pretty big athleticism difference on that floor last night. Butler still only 3 years removed from being in the Horizon and it showed in places last night.

[BEhomer]

let's not forget it was chrabascz' first game back from injury and he missed all of his 6 FTs and at a crucial time in the game as well. if he knocks down half of his FTs it's a much different game in the last min.

I still like butler alot. their defense was solid and kept them in the game even though their 3 main offensive weapons (dunham, chrab, jones) struggled from the field.

they will be a frustrating matchup for many teams in the tourney.

[hoyahooligan]

Another great vine from last night's game.

Watch DSR destroy Barlow's ankles: https://vine.co/v/O0XT3mi3jUA

[GumbyDamnit!]

Too many knee jerk comments on this thread for my liking.

"Butler is playing like a borderline tourney team," Give me a break. Butler plays everyone tough and has not been blown out of any game this year. One of their starters is just coming back form injury and Gtwn made plays when they needed to. Why the need to cut teams down instead of building up others? Instead of using last night's result as possible validation that Gtwn is starting to hit its stride, you (surprise, surprise) use it an opportunity to try to knock another BE team down a rung. Your act is old Stever.

..."Nova is only as good as their 3 pt. shooting." Yeah, well when they shoot 45% in league play and you get 3 pts instead of 2 (67% eFG%), I think I would try to get my team looks from 3 if they had 6 guys who could all stroke it like Nova does. Nova is 28-2, 15-2 in the 2nd toughest conf in the land, is in the RPI and AP/USA Poll top 5 and may well be a #1 seed. But I guess that is in spite of their penchant to rely too much on the 3. Let's see, they didn't shoot as well as they normally do vs. CU so how'd they win last night then? Great input. Thanks.

Maybe, just maybe Nova is a little road weary and even they can't get up for every game. In the toughest stretch of their season they went 7-0 beating 3 Top 50 RPI teams on the road (BU, X & PC), and another 2 Top 25 RPI teams at home. So not having as much energy for Creighton seems more likely the reason for the close game then their offensive philosophy. And give CU some credit, they played with a LOT of energy last night.

[WaitingPatiently]

I'm not one to blame refs. That's just a convenient excuse for fans. I didn't see any of the Butler-G'town on TV, but I was at the Nova-Creighton game. And from the snippets shown here, it seems the B-G game was as poorly officiated at the one I was at. The reffing didn't decide the game I was at, but it was so bad. That game took 2.5 hours - even worse with the 8:15 start on a school/work night! Both coaches were T'd up - usually a sign that they suck when both get one. Jay is not a 'complainer' or a rider of the officials, but he was last night.

For most of this season I've thought the refs have been pretty solid and followed a familiar pattern. Let everything go in the first half where the teams combine for single digit fouls and it's at half in 35 min. Then call everything for the first 17-18 min of the second half before finishing in the manner of the first half. And the second half taking twice the time of the first half. But the last two weeks or so it seems like across the board it's fallen down a steep slope. What was in Omaha last night was low major reffing. I did think Fran Frashilla made a great point about that on twitter last night. He said the refs are working so many games in so many cities that they're tired and are missing things. I think he was referring to something in the Kansas-WV game. He called for restrictions on number of games you can work leading up to the conf tourneys to be put in place.

I think the BE should look at something along these lines. Pay the refs considerably more than other conferences, but tell them you can only work 3 games a week. If you want to work more games, then you can't work here to get the premium pay. And if they aren't high enough quality, they don't get scheduled either.

[RedStormHoops]

Too many knee jerk comments on this thread for my liking.

"Butler is playing like a borderline tourney team," Give me a break. Butler plays everyone tough and has not been blown out of any game this year. One of their starters is just coming back form injury and Gtwn made plays when they needed to. Why the need to cut teams down instead of building up others? Instead of using last night's result as possible validation that Gtwn is starting to hit its stride, you (surprise, surprise) use it an opportunity to try to knock another BE team down a rung. Your act is old Stever.

..."Nova is only as good as their 3 pt. shooting." Yeah, well when they shoot 45% in league play and you get 3 pts instead of 2 (67% eFG%), I think I would try to get my team looks from 3 if they had 6 guys who could all stroke it like Nova does. Nova is 28-2, 15-2 in the 2nd toughest conf in the land, is in the RPI and AP/USA Poll top 5 and may well be a #1 seed. But I guess that is in spite of their penchant to rely too much on the 3. Let's see, they didn't shoot as well as they normally do vs. CU so how'd they win last night then? Great input. Thanks.

Maybe, just maybe Nova is a little road weary and even they can't get up for every game. In the toughest stretch of their season they went 7-0 beating 3 Top 50 RPI teams on the road (BU, X & PC), and another 2 Top 25 RPI teams at home. So not having as much energy for Creighton seems more likely the reason for the close game then their offensive philosophy. And give CU some credit, they played with a LOT of energy last night.

I was the one that said that maybe butler was losing momentum they had in early February. I wouldn't say they are a fringe tournament team. But a month ago I really though butler would get a 4 seed and make the sweet 16, now I don't know what to expect. The Chrabascz point is a good one, he was playing his best ball right before he got injured. But to be fair, Xavier blew them out, and then they lost at home last night on senior night by making dumb mistakes and missing free throws. In my opinion they don't look as good as they did a month ago. Maybe they need time for Chrabascz to settle back into the rotation.

[stever20]

Too many knee jerk comments on this thread for my liking.

"Butler is playing like a borderline tourney team," Give me a break. Butler plays everyone tough and has not been blown out of any game this year. One of their starters is just coming back form injury and Gtwn made plays when they needed to. Why the need to cut teams down instead of building up others? Instead of using last night's result as possible validation that Gtwn is starting to hit its stride, you (surprise, surprise) use it an opportunity to try to knock another BE team down a rung. Your act is old Stever.

..."Nova is only as good as their 3 pt. shooting." Yeah, well when they shoot 45% in league play and you get 3 pts instead of 2 (67% eFG%), I think I would try to get my team looks from 3 if they had 6 guys who could all stroke it like Nova does. Nova is 28-2, 15-2 in the 2nd toughest conf in the land, is in the RPI and AP/USA Poll top 5 and may well be a #1 seed. But I guess that is in spite of their penchant to rely too much on the 3. Let's see, they didn't shoot as well as they normally do vs. CU so how'd they win last night then? Great input. Thanks.

Maybe, just maybe Nova is a little road weary and even they can't get up for every game. In the toughest stretch of their season they went 7-0 beating 3 Top 50 RPI teams on the road (BU, X & PC), and another 2 Top 25 RPI teams at home. So not having as much energy for Creighton seems more likely the reason for the close game then their offensive philosophy. And give CU some credit, they played with a LOT of energy last night.

Butler hasn't beaten many really good teams in the last month and a half. 6 of the wins- Marquette, Creighton, and DePaul. Only other wins were vs Seton Hall and St John's. 0-5 against the top 3 teams in the conference. Also, I'm not the only one who said something about Butler. Might want to go and look at the thread....