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Re: 11

Postby gavitspeaks » Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:45 pm

Of course you would rather not be in the position to have to dance with that many losses, as it is not frequent. But x's resume compares favorably to those teams.[/quote]
X's resume does not compare with any of the 5 teams in 2011 except for USC(who was probably the worst team EVER to be selected). Arizona in 2008- 11 top 100 wins and only 2 bad losses, and 8-8 away from home- that resume is better than X's..... Georgia in 2000- you can't compare the committee back then to now.

Saw Team Rankings gives Xavier at 18 wins a 25% chance now of making it. It's not impossible, but man you don't want to take those odds at all.[/quote]

Xavier or whomever....does it matter? Whoever gets in only gets in because the field this year is a little down. Xavier is an average team even at 19-13 or 20-13. That is average. Put them in or not. Lipstick on a pig is still a pig. It's better for our league if they do get in anyway. Let em in.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby stever20 » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:21 pm

Texas with huge win over Baylor. Now 18-12 and probably safe with 1 more win.
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Re: 11

Postby gavitspeaks » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:24 pm

X's resume does not compare with any of the 5 teams in 2011 except for USC(who was probably the worst team EVER to be selected). Arizona in 2008- 11 top 100 wins and only 2 bad losses, and 8-8 away from home- that resume is better than X's..... Georgia in 2000- you can't compare the committee back then to now.

Saw Team Rankings gives Xavier at 18 wins a 25% chance now of making it. It's not impossible, but man you don't want to take those odds at all.



Texas beats #14 Baylor.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby stever20 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:42 am

a bit surprised by ESPN:
St. John's [20-9 (9-7), RPI: 31, SOS: 35] On Feb. 3, St. John's lost at Butler 85-62, and the whole St. John's thing -- talented and occasionally impressive but just maddeningly inconsistent and disappointing -- looked like the defining theme of a once-promising season. And then, all of a sudden, St. John's started winning. First, it was Creighton and DePaul at home, which didn't really get the blood pumping. A Feb. 14 win at Xavier followed, and after a blowout loss at Georgetown Feb. 17, the Red Storm won three straight, including another over the Musketeers and Saturday's 81-70 win over the Hoyas. And now? Five top-50 wins (including sweeps of Xavier and Providence), 9-7 records in conference play and against the top 100, totally solid RPI and schedule numbers, and few genuinely bad losses. (Even the loss at DePaul looks forgivable, given the Blue Demons' 6-6 league start.) All of a sudden, St. John's is a long shot to miss the tournament, not the other way around. February went by in a flash.

Xavier [18-12 (8-9), RPI: 42, SOS: 15] There's nothing to worry about for the Musketeers. Sure, from one perspective, Saturday's home loss at Villanova was a missed opportunity -- not only a chance to completely lock up their bid but also to boost their eventual seed ceiling another line or two. And yeah, a loss moved Xavier to 18-12 overall and 8-9 in the Big East, and a sub-.500 record in conference play at the end of the regular season is historically less-than-ideal for at-large consideration. Still, Saturday said more about Villanova (and how incredibly good it is) than anything about the Musketeers. If Chris Mack's team falls at Creighton on Saturday, then we'll have to reconsider. If it wins, its just about a lock.

I just don't see how they aren't calling St John's a lock. I mean, I know Marquette would be a bad loss, but even so, with few bad losses, to me St John's is absolutely safe.

For Xavier- I think we know where I stand. I do disagree with ESPN in that if they win, it's not just about a lock, it IS a lock.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby RedStormHoops » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:44 pm

If St. John's loses their next 3 I won't be comfortable on selection Sunday, we would probably still get in but i wouldn't call it a lock. St. John's is locked into the tournament with a win tomorrow night
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby HoosierPal » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:30 pm

Who are the #1 seeds. KY looses out, they are still a #1. But they won't loose out.

Duke and UVA, assuming both win this weekend, could meet in the ACC final. UVA plays @ Louisville and Duke has to go to Chapel Hill after they dispatch Wake this weekend. If both have clean sheets and either stumbles in the ACC semi-finals, do they still get a #1? It is highly likely that at least one will be a #1. If they run the table and meet in the ACC final, both will be rewarded with a #1.

That leaves one or two #1 seeds. Villanova, Wisconsin, and Arizona still could grab a #1 and are probably ranked in that order as of now. Any loss likely puts that team at the rear of this line. Even though Kansas still has the #2 RPI, it is hard to believe a 23-6 team is a #1. But how loud does RPI talk to the committee?
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby stever20 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:39 pm

HoosierPal wrote:Who are the #1 seeds. KY looses out, they are still a #1. But they won't loose out.

Duke and UVA, assuming both win this weekend, could meet in the ACC final. UVA plays @ Louisville and Duke has to go to Chapel Hill after they dispatch Wake this weekend. If both have clean sheets and either stumbles in the ACC semi-finals, do they still get a #1? It is highly likely that at least one will be a #1. If they run the table and meet in the ACC final, both will be rewarded with a #1.

That leaves one or two #1 seeds. Villanova, Wisconsin, and Arizona still could grab a #1 and are probably ranked in that order as of now. Any loss likely puts that team at the rear of this line. Even though Kansas still has the #2 RPI, it is hard to believe a 23-6 team is a #1. But how loud does RPI talk to the committee?


Duke and UVA if both win this week, as long as they win their QF will be #1 seeds. Heck, UVA with only 1 loss could possibly lose to Louisville and make the SF and still be a #1 seed.

I think the other #1 seed is probably Villanova, Wisconsin, and Arizona in that order. I don't think Kansas has a real shot unless all 3 stumble and Kansas wins out. even then I still like Nova over them as 3 losses vs 6 losses(the other 2 would have 4).
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby stever20 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:50 pm

HoosierPal wrote:Who are the #1 seeds. KY looses out, they are still a #1. But they won't loose out.

Duke and UVA, assuming both win this weekend, could meet in the ACC final. UVA plays @ Louisville and Duke has to go to Chapel Hill after they dispatch Wake this weekend. If both have clean sheets and either stumbles in the ACC semi-finals, do they still get a #1? It is highly likely that at least one will be a #1. If they run the table and meet in the ACC final, both will be rewarded with a #1.

That leaves one or two #1 seeds. Villanova, Wisconsin, and Arizona still could grab a #1 and are probably ranked in that order as of now. Any loss likely puts that team at the rear of this line. Even though Kansas still has the #2 RPI, it is hard to believe a 23-6 team is a #1. But how loud does RPI talk to the committee?

I think something else that is as big, if not bigger for Nova is could they get the 3rd 1 seed instead of the 4th 1 seed. I'd say it's fairly big to be if you make the final 4 where you don't see Kentucky.

Also- I'd love to see that Kentucky/Villanova for the title- 30 years since the perfect game from Nova. Would be quite the story line.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby Jet915 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:54 pm

Texas A&M and Indiana lose today.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby stever20 » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:02 am

Jet915 wrote:Texas A&M and Indiana lose today.

Dayton, Iowa, Ole Miss, NC State all win....

Of Lunardi's key 16 as I call them last 8 out- first 8 in...
#7 in Indiana lost
#6 in NC State won

A&M was high enough to where it won't matter much(they are a 9 right now).
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