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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby RedStormHoops » Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:38 pm

Xavier will beat Cincy and butler to clinch their bid. Book it
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Postby DudeAnon » Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:39 pm

stever20 wrote:
DudeAnon wrote:Xavier ain't a lock. But its a huge testament to the Big East that a team with 14 losses 13 losses could still make the tourney.


yeah it's that- and it's also the fact that the bubble is extremely weak this year.

let me re-say that. the bubble the last few years is weak every year.


Any numbers to back that up? Seems just as likely the bubble is always weak. Hence, "the bubble".

RedStormHoops wrote:Xavier will beat Cincy and butler to clinch their bid. Book it


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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby HoosierPal » Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:58 pm

RedStormHoops wrote:Xavier will beat Cincy and butler to clinch their bid. Book it


....and then do what against St. Johns, Villanova and Creighton? Going 2-2 in conference play is essential. A sub .500 conference record is not good for the resume. Cincy is not as important as the conference games.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby stever20 » Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:10 pm

DudeAnon wrote:
stever20 wrote:
DudeAnon wrote:Xavier ain't a lock. But its a huge testament to the Big East that a team with 14 losses 13 losses could still make the tourney.


yeah it's that- and it's also the fact that the bubble is extremely weak this year.

let me re-say that. the bubble the last few years is weak every year.


Any numbers to back that up? Seems just as likely the bubble is always weak. Hence, "the bubble".

RedStormHoops wrote:Xavier will beat Cincy and butler to clinch their bid. Book it


+1

I know it's what the talking heads say every year.

One thing I know has changed- more conferences are playing 18 conference games. back even 5 years ago, ACC, A10, B12, and SEC all played 16 conference games. That's changed big time now.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby stever20 » Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:11 pm

HoosierPal wrote:
RedStormHoops wrote:Xavier will beat Cincy and butler to clinch their bid. Book it


....and then do what against St. Johns, Villanova and Creighton? Going 2-2 in conference play is essential. A sub .500 conference record is not good for the resume. Cincy is not as important as the conference games.

I actually disagree. I believe we have seen several instances where a losing conference record team has made the tourney.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby RedStormHoops » Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:34 pm

HoosierPal wrote:
RedStormHoops wrote:Xavier will beat Cincy and butler to clinch their bid. Book it


....and then do what against St. Johns, Villanova and Creighton? Going 2-2 in conference play is essential. A sub .500 conference record is not good for the resume. Cincy is not as important as the conference games.



Xavier will finish 9-9 with the win over Cincy and easily get in. Xavier at home against a butler team that just suffered a big loss plus the game will mean much more for the X, they will win that game. Cincy just had a player dismissed from the team I believe and lost to Tulane. Xavier will win that game
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby GumbyDamnit! » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:17 am

Here's what is hilarious about Stever. He points to the LBS loss as potentially bad for X as LBS is hovering around 100. But he fails to recognize that Cincy has lost to both ECU (200+) and Tulane (150+). If X beats Cincy guess what happens Stever? X replaces Cincy as a lock. If Cincy wins they are home and expected to win. X then just needs to get to .500 in conf. I feel great about 6. It's going to happen people. AAC will struggle mightily for 3 if UC loses to X.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby billyjack » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:18 am

RedStormHoops wrote:
HoosierPal wrote:
RedStormHoops wrote:Xavier will beat Cincy and butler to clinch their bid. Book it


....and then do what against St. Johns, Villanova and Creighton? Going 2-2 in conference play is essential. A sub .500 conference record is not good for the resume. Cincy is not as important as the conference games.



Xavier will finish 9-9 with the win over Cincy and easily get in. Xavier at home against a butler team that just suffered a big loss plus the game will mean much more for the X, they will win that game. Cincy just had a player dismissed from the team I believe and lost to Tulane. Xavier will win that game


I agree Redstorm...
By next Sunday night, Xavier will be an NCAA lock.
The following day, having conceded that XU is safe, our village pessimist will open up a new line of attack:

NCAA seeding...!

The attack will focus on how many BE teams will get stuck in the dreaded "8 vs 9" game...
Hey, what's that...? Yeah, of course, 4 BE teams will have 8-9 games...! The AAC is in a much stronger position...!
Anyway, prepare yourselves for that...!
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby billyjack » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:25 am

GumbyDamnit! wrote:Here's what is hilarious about Stever. He points to the LBS loss as potentially bad for X as LBS is hovering around 100. But he fails to recognize that Cincy has lost to both ECU (200+) and Tulane (150+). If X beats Cincy guess what happens Stever? X replaces Cincy as a lock. If Cincy wins they are home and expected to win. X then just needs to get to .500 in conf. I feel great about 6. It's going to happen people. AAC will struggle mightily for 3 if UC loses to X.


Exactly, great points.
Also, like UConn, Long Beach plays their conference tourney 20 minutes down the road, and so like UConn, they will win it of course, boosting their RPI.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby stever20 » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:33 am

GumbyDamnit! wrote:Here's what is hilarious about Stever. He points to the LBS loss as potentially bad for X as LBS is hovering around 100. But he fails to recognize that Cincy has lost to both ECU (200+) and Tulane (150+). If X beats Cincy guess what happens Stever? X replaces Cincy as a lock. If Cincy wins they are home and expected to win. X then just needs to get to .500 in conf. I feel great about 6. It's going to happen people. AAC will struggle mightily for 3 if UC loses to X.

The problem though is the LBS loss would become their 4th bad loss. 4 bad losses is much worse than 2 bad losses.

And if X beats Cincy- they still aren't a lock. They would still need to get 2 more wins. 18-14 is not a lock situation under any circumstances. I'd love to have some of what you guys are smoking if you really believe that.
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