Bubble Watch

[XUFan09]

Going off the premise that the Committee decides team's inclusion without consideration for injuries, VCU will make the tournament. Their seed is going to suck, though, compared to what they were expecting just a couple weeks ago.

Huh? The committee definitely takes injuries into account especially if they have a sample size of the team with out that player like they will for VCU.

I always thought they placed teams in or out of the tournament without the injury consideration but they seeded them with injuries considered.

[Bill Marsh]

Going off the premise that the Committee decides team's inclusion without consideration for injuries, VCU will make the tournament. Their seed is going to suck, though, compared to what they were expecting just a couple weeks ago.

Huh? The committee definitely takes injuries into account especially if they have a sample size of the team with out that player like they will for VCU.

I always thought they placed teams in or out of the tournament without the injury consideration but they seeded them with injuries considered.

You're 100% correct, XU Fan.

[RedStormHoops]

Going off the premise that the Committee decides team's inclusion without consideration for injuries, VCU will make the tournament. Their seed is going to suck, though, compared to what they were expecting just a couple weeks ago.

I always thought they placed teams in or out of the tournament without the injury consideration but they seeded them with injuries considered.

You're 100% correct, XU Fan.

Yes that is correct. 5 years ago St. John's was looking at a 4 or 5 seed but one of our best players tore his ACL in the BET against Syracuse. So we got bumped to a 6 seed and had to play Gonzaga and lost

[Barley]

Going off the premise that the Committee decides team's inclusion without consideration for injuries, VCU will make the tournament. Their seed is going to suck, though, compared to what they were expecting just a couple weeks ago.

Huh? The committee definitely takes injuries into account especially if they have a sample size of the team with out that player like they will for VCU.

Right. If they can tell that VCU sucks in their current makeup, that will definitely be factored in.

[HoosierPal]

Going off the premise that the Committee decides team's inclusion without consideration for injuries, VCU will make the tournament. Their seed is going to suck, though, compared to what they were expecting just a couple weeks ago.

Huh? The committee definitely takes injuries into account especially if they have a sample size of the team with out that player like they will for VCU.

I always thought they placed teams in or out of the tournament without the injury consideration but they seeded them with injuries considered.

lhttp://www.ncaa.com/content/di-principles-and-procedures-selection/

See Page 5. The committee can use games missed by key players, or any other qualitative, quantitative, or subjective measure for selection, seeding and bracketing.

[Gopher+RamFan]

VCU has played 3 games without their 2 seniors (leading rebounder, scorer, assist man, steals man) going 1-2 with losses being a buzzer beat and 2OT.

It's basically a brand new team of 8 underclassmen and one junior. Will take some time with all the young players, but they'll get to at least 20 wins. That and the #1 OOC schedule (for now) and they're easily in. The team is re-adjusting to their roles, and the dynamic changed. Once both players went down, we knew it'd be a few games before the team settled into new roles.

VCU won't be near the bubble unless they lose their next 4 games straight. Seeding wise, VCU will take a big hit.

[stever20]

VCU has played 3 games without their 2 seniors (leading rebounder, scorer, assist man, steals man) going 1-2 with losses being a buzzer beat and 2OT.

It's basically a brand new team of 8 underclassmen and one junior. Will take some time with all the young players, but they'll get to at least 20 wins. That and the #1 OOC schedule (for now) and they're easily in. The team is re-adjusting to their roles, and the dynamic changed. Once both players went down, we knew it'd be a few games before the team settled into new roles.

VCU won't be near the bubble unless they lose their next 4 games straight. Seeding wise, VCU will take a big hit.

A win over SLU is meaningless this year. They have to get at least 1 win from a group of GW, UMass, Richmond, Dayton, and Davidson. If they were to lose all of those, they would be 20-11 entering the A10 tourney(with a 8-9 conference tourney seed), and a 1st rd loss and I just don't see the committee taking them.

[BEwannabe]

even worst case scenario, VCU rpi will stay around 30 and they will be in the field but as some of you have correctly noted, their seeding will take a hit and rightfully so. But as usual some of you are misguided. VCU stumbling actually opens up a very real possibility for the A10 to add 1 more to the field not 1 less. With their injuries the chances for VCU winning the A10 tourney are greatly diminished, add Dayton only 6 deep their chances would seem to be unlikely to win 3 nights in a row. So unless Dayton stumbles which still is a possibility then the A10 will send 3 for sure and if GW, Rhody, UMASS,LaSalle, or Davidson would go on a win streak to finish the season any 1 of those would be on or inside the bubble. And LaSalle just may be that team, they suddenly have a star playing really well, some others emerging and a favorable schedule. If they win out they'll have a project 42 rpi and likelt "IN".

[stever20]

even worst case scenario, VCU rpi will stay around 30 and they will be in the field but as some of you have correctly noted, their seeding will take a hit and rightfully so. But as usual some of you are misguided. VCU stumbling actually opens up a very real possibility for the A10 to add 1 more to the field not 1 less. With their injuries the chances for VCU winning the A10 tourney are greatly diminished, add Dayton only 6 deep their chances would seem to be unlikely to win 3 nights in a row. So unless Dayton stumbles which still is a possibility then the A10 will send 3 for sure and if GW, Rhody, UMASS,LaSalle, or Davidson would go on a win streak to finish the season any 1 of those would be on or inside the bubble.

If VCU's RPI is around 35ish(which it would get down to in a worst case scenario)- I could easily see them passing on VCU. I think I'd expect them to quite frankly.

[Bill Marsh]

even worst case scenario, VCU rpi will stay around 30 and they will be in the field but as some of you have correctly noted, their seeding will take a hit and rightfully so. But as usual some of you are misguided. VCU stumbling actually opens up a very real possibility for the A10 to add 1 more to the field not 1 less. With their injuries the chances for VCU winning the A10 tourney are greatly diminished, add Dayton only 6 deep their chances would seem to be unlikely to win 3 nights in a row. So unless Dayton stumbles which still is a possibility then the A10 will send 3 for sure and if GW, Rhody, UMASS,LaSalle, or Davidson would go on a win streak to finish the season any 1 of those would be on or inside the bubble.

If VCU's RPI is around 35ish(which it would get down to in a worst case scenario)- I could easily see them passing on VCU. I think I'd expect them to quite frankly.

And how is that going to happen?

Even if VCU loses every road game the rest of the way AND loses it's home game to Dayton AND loses in the first round of the A10 tournament, they still finish 23-8 with a projected RPI of 16.