Big East's NCAA doomsday scenario

[robinreed]

The projections I have seen all indicate we will have 5 bids this year. I would be surprised if it is less or more than that. For a 10 team league 5 bids is very good.

The projected teams are Nova, PC, Butler, G-town, XU.

[DemonLS]

All this negative DePaul talk makes me sick to read. This program has been down for 20 years and they are making some progress and many of you are haters?

For the 5th time, you ALL better hope that St. Johns and DePaul pick their programs up and that will help everyone else.

Isn't this just called good conference play? One individual posted that he thought DePaul was going to suck. I was actually the opposite. I thought this Team had a chance to make some noise this year but I only told a few.

I will make a prediction....barring any injuries...DePaul will win more games.

And in no way are us DePaul fans bragging. We don't know how....well at least after 1992 we don't.

[Omaha1]

The projections I have seen all indicate we will have 5 bids this year. I would be surprised if it is less or more than that. For a 10 team league 5 bids is very good.

The projected teams are Nova, PC, Butler, G-town, XU.

Just wondering which projeections you are referring too? I was surprised yesterday to see people still saying 7 and XU is in the first four?

[ChelseaFriar]

All this negative DePaul talk makes me sick to read. This program has been down for 20 years and they are making some progress and many of you are haters?

For the 5th time, you ALL better hope that St. Johns and DePaul pick their programs up and that will help everyone else.

Isn't this just called good conference play? One individual posted that he thought DePaul was going to suck. I was actually the opposite. I thought this Team had a chance to make some noise this year but I only told a few.

I will make a prediction....barring any injuries...DePaul will win more games.

And in no way are us DePaul fans bragging. We don't know how....well at least after 1992 we don't.

I'm not a DePaul hater and I hope they turn the program around (and I think they should and will). I lived in Chicago for 2 years during the Quentin Richardson era and I followed the program a bit (I was, of course, a PC fan first). But this notion that the Big East NEEDS St. John's and DePaul to be good in order to find success is not something I buy. Sure, it would be nice, but if, say, Villanova, Georgetown and Seton Hall all find themselves firmly in the Top 20 every year, with maybe a Xavier or Butler as a fringe Top 20 on any given year, that would be just fine and the league would be strong.

I get the big city thought process and media markets, but it just comes across as a bit arrogant. And this is coming from someone who has lived in Manhattan for the past 10 years and is an old school BE fan.

Edit: BTW, this isn't directed toward you. I just thought of it because I constantly see people writing that the BE NEEDS SJU to be strong in order to succeed. Sure, it would be nice to have a strong NYC team, but it's not an absolute necessity.

[R Jay]

All this negative DePaul talk makes me sick to read. This program has been down for 20 years and they are making some progress and many of you are haters?

For the 5th time, you ALL better hope that St. Johns and DePaul pick their programs up and that will help everyone else.

Isn't this just called good conference play? One individual posted that he thought DePaul was going to suck. I was actually the opposite. I thought this Team had a chance to make some noise this year but I only told a few.

I will make a prediction....barring any injuries...DePaul will win more games.

And in no way are us DePaul fans bragging. We don't know how....well at least after 1992 we don't.

I'm not a DePaul hater and I hope they turn the program around (and I think they should and will). I lived in Chicago for 2 years during the Quentin Richardson era and I followed the program a bit (I was, of course, a PC fan first). But this notion that the Big East NEEDS St. John's and DePaul to be good in order to find success is not something I buy. Sure, it would be nice, but if, say, Villanova, Georgetown and Seton Hall all find themselves firmly in the Top 20 every year, with maybe a Xavier or Butler as a fringe Top 20 on any given year, that would be just fine and the league would be strong.

I get the big city thought process and media markets, but it just comes across as a bit arrogant. And this is coming from someone who has lived in Manhattan for the past 10 years and is an old school BE fan.

Edit: BTW, this isn't directed toward you. I just thought of it because I constantly see people writing that the BE NEEDS SJU to be strong in order to succeed. Sure, it would be nice to have a strong NYC team, but it's not an absolute necessity.

+1 I feel exactly the same way on this. It'd be nice, but not necessary. For me, the schools that need to be consistently strong are Georgetown, Nova, and Marquette, but it's not because of the cities, but because they are traditionally thought of as basketball powers by everyday fans.

[gosports1]

i find it kind of amusing that i've read on here several times how the BE needs Depaul to be successful. Now that they actually are making some noise some people are getting all pissy. They had a rough OOC but if they continue to finish strong why wouldnt that be a good thing?

[robinreed]

The projections I have seen all indicate we will have 5 bids this year. I would be surprised if it is less or more than that. For a 10 team league 5 bids is very good.

The projected teams are Nova, PC, Butler, G-town, XU.

Just wondering which projeections you are referring too? I was surprised yesterday to see people still saying 7 and XU is in the first four?

BRACKETOLOGY - BIG EAST

5 BIDS PREDICTED

Big East Conference (5.0 Projected Bids)
Projected Seed Current Record & Projected Finish NCAA Tournament Bid Odds Seed Projection Detail
Seed S-Curve Team Proj W/L Bid Auto Bid At Large Bid Avg Seed 1-4 Seed 1 Seed
2 7 Villanova (17-2) 26-5 100% 42% 58% 2.7 90% 18%
6 24 Providence (15-5) 20-11 80% 7% 73% 6.8 17% 0%
7 26 Butler (14-6) 21-10 90% 15% 75% 7.5 13% 0%
7 25 Georgetown (13-5) 19-10 89% 13% 76% 7.5 12% 0%
8 32 Xavier (12-7) 19-12 70% 11% 58% 7.3 12% 0%
St Johns (13-5) 19-12 32% 4% 27% 9.1 1% 0%
Seton Hall (13-5) 18-12 34% 4% 30% 9.4 1% 0%
Creighton (9-11) 13-18 1% 1% 0% 13.8 0% 0%
Marquette (10-8) 15-15 6% 2% 3% 10.4 0% 0%
DePaul (11-9) 13-18 0% 0% 0% 12.3 0% 0%

[robinreed]

i find it kind of amusing that i've read on here several times how the BE needs Depaul to be successful. Now that they actually are making some noise some people are getting all pissy. They had a rough OOC but if they continue to finish strong why wouldnt that be a good thing?

A good observation gosports1. Unfortunately every conference needs 3 or 4 schools who do not put up superior teams on a regular basis. Otherwise it is difficult for the actual good teams to win often enough to get into the dance.

[itsmejpt]

From Top 25 to wrong side of the bubble apparently for Seton Hall? Geez. Tough crowd.

[RedStormHoops]

SJU doesn't belong in tournament based on their resume right now. Things will change, hopefully for the better, but right now 5-6 teams seems abhor right.