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[robinreed]

ESPN RPI
2014-15 RPI
RK (RPI) TEAM RPI D1 W-L SOS NCRP NCSS CFRP CFSS 1-25 26-50 51-100 L12 LRPI OFFQ DEFQ ASM
1 (6) Villanova .6843 14-1 23 4 51 19 28 4-1 1-0 3-0 11-1 10 12.0 9.2 21.1
2 (11) Seton Hall .6434 12-3 36 6 116 16 14 3-1 0-2 1-0 9-3 52 6.0 8.4 14.4
3 (16) Providence .6311 12-4 22 60 17 42 94 1-1 1-0 5-1 8-4 19 5.5 8.6 14.1
4 (24) St. John's .6127 10-4 10 10 42 122 23 0-4 0-0 4-0 8-4 14 4.6 10.2 14.8
5 (25) Butler .6122 11-5 19 22 75 49 19 2-3 1-0 1-2 7-5 30 4.1 12.4 16.5
6 (30) Xavier .6083 11-4 47 43 87 35 50 1-0 2-0 1-3 8-4 109 14.6 3.3 17.9
7 (31) Georgetown .6066 10-4 17 77 21 52 83 0-3 0-1 4-0 8-4 22 8.7 5.7 14.4
8 (91) Marquette .5509 9-6 64 82 110 101 71 1-1 1-3 1-0 8-4 51 4.7 6.2 10.9
9 (126) Creighton .5272 9-7 129 80 192 184 85 1-1 0-2 1-2 5-7 107 4.8 3.7 8.5
10 (161) DePaul .5022 9-7 232 105 302 13 69 0-1 2-0 1-1 6-6 180 8.9 -3.9 5.0

CONFERENCE RPI by teamrankings.com

BIG EAST NUMERO UNO
Rank Conference Rating Top Team Last
1 Big East 0.593 Villanova (15-1) 1
2 Big 12 0.591 Kansas (13-2) 2
3 ACC 0.572 Virginia (15-0) 3
4 Big Ten 0.572 Wisconsin (15-1) 4
5 SEC 0.570 Kentucky (15-0) 5
6 Pac-12 0.564 Arizona (14-1) 6
7 Atlantic 10 0.546 VCU (13-3) 7
8 American 0.530 Temple (12-5) 8
9 WCC 0.522 Gonzaga (16-1) 9
10 MVC 0.518 Wichita St (13-2) 10
11 Mountain West 0.513 Colorado St (15-2) 11
12 MAC 0.509 Buffalo (10-4) 12
13 Independents 0.504 NJIT (9-9) 15
14 Big West 0.500 Lg Beach St (7-10) 13
15 Horizon League 0.494 WI-Grn Bay (13-3) 14
16 Ivy 0.489 Harvard (10-3) 16
17 Patriot 0.485 Lafayette (10-5) 17
18 CUSA 0.484 Old Dominion (13-2) 18
19 CAA 0.482 Northeastrn (11-5) 19
20 MAAC 0.462 Iona (11-5) 20

BRACKETOLOGY - BIG EAST

Big East Conference (4.7 Projected Bids)
Projected Seed Current Record & Projected Finish NCAA Tournament Bid Odds Seed Projection Detail
Seed S-Curve Team Proj W/L Bid Auto Bid At Large Bid Avg Seed 1-4 Seed 1 Seed
2 6 Villanova (14-1) 27-4 100% 49% 51% 2.3 93% 31%
6 23 Xavier (11-4) 20-11 78% 13% 65% 6.3 23% 1%
8 32 Butler (11-5) 20-11 74% 12% 61% 8.1 8% 0%
10 39 Providence (12-4) 20-11 58% 6% 53% 7.8 7% 0%
11 43 Georgetown (10-4) 18-11 59% 8% 50% 9.2 3% 0%
11 41 Seton Hall (12-3) 20-10 61% 5% 56% 8.8 4% 0%
St Johns (11-4) 19-12 33% 4% 29% 9.8 1% 0%
Creighton (9-7) 14-17 1% 1% 0% 11.8 0% 0%
Marquette (9-6) 15-15 9% 2% 6% 10.1 0% 0%
DePaul (9-7) 11-20 0% 0% 0% 13.8 0% 0%

[billyjack]

I just found rpiforecast. Can't believe I had never been before.

Anyway, St John's, despite their 0-3 record, is in excellent shape:
They could go 8-10, and 1-1 in the BET, and their RPI would be at 43...!

To get to 8-10, they would need:
2 wins each vs DePaul, Creighton and Marquette, plus
2 home wins out of these 3 opponents --> Xavier, PC, and Seton Hall.
Anything beyond that is gravy, like stealing a road win at Butler, Georgetown, XU or PC.
BET would just be: W vs DePaul, L vs Villanova.

This gets them a 43 rpi and an NCAA bid.

[R Jay]

I just found rpiforecast. Can't believe I had never been before.

Anyway, St John's, despite their 0-3 record, is in excellent shape:
They could go 8-10, and 1-1 in the BET, and their RPI would be at 43...!

To get to 8-10, they would need:
2 wins each vs DePaul, Creighton and Marquette, plus
2 home wins out of these 3 opponents --> Xavier, PC, and Seton Hall.
Anything beyond that is gravy, like stealing a road win at Butler, Georgetown, XU or PC.
BET would just be: W vs DePaul, L vs Villanova.

This gets them a 43 rpi and an NCAA bid.

Easier said than done. I don't think they're going to be able to win all 6 against Depaul, Creighton, and Marquette. I doubt they'll beat two of X, PC, and Seton Hall at home, either.

[stever20]

I just found rpiforecast. Can't believe I had never been before.

Anyway, St John's, despite their 0-3 record, is in excellent shape:
They could go 8-10, and 1-1 in the BET, and their RPI would be at 43...!

To get to 8-10, they would need:
2 wins each vs DePaul, Creighton and Marquette, plus
2 home wins out of these 3 opponents --> Xavier, PC, and Seton Hall.
Anything beyond that is gravy, like stealing a road win at Butler, Georgetown, XU or PC.
BET would just be: W vs DePaul, L vs Villanova.

This gets them a 43 rpi and an NCAA bid.

Don't think your scenario can happen. If they are 8-10, they are no worse than 7th. I don't know that Creighton can win 4 Big East games to even have a chance to not finish 10th. Creighton winning 3 and DePaul winning none- that would take it to the top team they beat. Have got to think DePaul will have the better win in the one vs Xavier. So 7/10 should be St John's/Creighton. After that- St John's would play the 2nd seed- which would be between Seton Hall/Xavier/Butler. So DePaul/Villanova pretty much couldn't happen for St John's. And looking at the rest of the conference- not sure a 2nd place team could give them enough oomph to get in with a loss.

Also- with RPI forecast, they have a 6th place tie with Georgetown and St John's. Whichever team wins that tiebreaker would pretty much be in a must win QF game. Georgetown entering game with a 44.9 RPI, St John's with a 42 RPI.

[EMT]

I just found rpiforecast. Can't believe I had never been before.

Anyway, St John's, despite their 0-3 record, is in excellent shape:
They could go 8-10, and 1-1 in the BET, and their RPI would be at 43...!

To get to 8-10, they would need:
2 wins each vs DePaul, Creighton and Marquette, plus
2 home wins out of these 3 opponents --> Xavier, PC, and Seton Hall.
Anything beyond that is gravy, like stealing a road win at Butler, Georgetown, XU or PC.
BET would just be: W vs DePaul, L vs Villanova.

This gets them a 43 rpi and an NCAA bid.

Easier said than done. I don't think they're going to be able to win all 6 against Depaul, Creighton, and Marquette. I doubt they'll beat two of X, PC, and Seton Hall at home, either.

How is 8-10 and RPI of 43 automatic?

[Fieldhouse Flyer]

St John's, despite their 0-3 record, is in excellent shape:

They could go 8-10, and 1-1 in the BET, and their RPI would be at 43...!

This gets them a 43 rpi and an NCAA bid.

(1) Starting out 0-3 in conference play is never 'being in excellent shape'.


(2) It is unusual for a for a team with a losing conference record to receive an at-large invitation, but it does happen:

At-large Selections - Teams Under .500 in Conference Play (CBS Sports - NCAA Tournament History)


(3) Crazy Joe muses about the Big East getting 8 teams in the NCAA Tournament:

Big East Gets Eight Teams In (Joe Lunardi, ESPN Insider - January 8, 2015)

Good luck with that one, Joe.

[MackNova]

I think St. John's finishes 8-10 in the Big East and is squarely on the bubble. RPI 43, 8-10 Big East, and a 19-12 record entering the BET puts them squarely on the bubble. Unless they can pull out the Duke game.

[billyjack]

A wise man on this board once told us that an RPI of 50 or better was a virtual lock. In my scenario, the Johnnies finish at 43 RPI.

Getting to 8-10 and 43 can be done without a major upset. They can go 8-7 in BE play the rest of the year. On the surface, that doesn't seem difficult for a team that's beaten some good teams in non-conference... Syracuse, Minnesota, St Mary's... they've dug a hole, but they don't have to go bonkers to lock up a bid. That was my point.

[stever20]

A wise man on this board once told us that an RPI of 50 or better was a virtual lock. In my scenario, the Johnnies finish at 43 RPI.

Getting to 8-10 and 43 can be done without a major upset. They can go 8-7 in BE play the rest of the year. On the surface, that doesn't seem difficult for a team that's beaten some good teams in non-conference... Syracuse, Minnesota, St Mary's... they've dug a hole, but they don't have to go bonkers to lock up a bid. That was my point.

They're 43- but that's before the tourney. A win vs Creighton(looking at around 167 RPI) followed by a loss to a Xavier, Butler, or Seton Hall- would likely drop them at least 3-4 spots.

Your scenario probably would get them a bid- but the toughest part is actually doing it. Sweeping DePaul, Marquette, and Creighton- not a given at all- nor is winning 2/3 from Xavier, PC, or Seton Hall. Also like I said earlier, they could finish 6th and be in the 3/6 game where a loss and they are almost certainly out at 19-13.

[RDinNY]

If St. John's goes 8-10, we don't deserve a bid absent a deep run in the BET.