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Re: RPI RANKING: FEEL FREE TO ADD OTHER RANKINGS

Postby robinreed » Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:35 pm

Hall2012 wrote:
robinreed wrote:ESPN RPI
2014-15 RPI
RK (RPI) TEAM RPI D1 W-L SOS NCRP NCSS CFRP CFSS 1-25 26-50 51-100 L12 LRPI OFFQ DEFQ ASM
1 (6) Villanova .6820 14-1 21 6 62 18 28 1-1 3-0 4-0 11-1 11 11.9 9.3 21.2
2 (11) Seton Hall .6484 12-2 54 3 132 1 8 2-2 1-0 2-0 10-2 67 6.7 9.0 15.7
3 (17) Providence .6332 12-4 19 53 19 41 79 0-1 3-0 4-1 8-4 21 5.5 8.8 14.3
4 (28) St. John's .6132 10-4 11 10 46 107 20 0-3 0-1 4-0 8-4 8 4.6 10.3 14.9
5 (32) Butler .6077 11-5 24 27 88 47 21 1-3 2-0 1-2 7-5 34 3.9 12.6 16.5
6 (33) Georgetown .6066 10-4 18 73 24 51 75 0-2 0-1 3-1 8-4 27 8.7 5.9 14.6
7 (51) Xavier .5878 10-4 77 59 108 81 85 0-0 2-0 1-3 8-4 124 15.3 2.8 18.1
8 (88) Marquette .5514 9-6 66 88 101 99 74 1-1 1-3 1-0 8-4 61 4.5 6.6 11.1
9 (103) Creighton .5393 9-6 145 50 201 147 58 1-1 0-2 1-2 6-6 106 5.3 4.1 9.4
10 (191) DePaul .4834 8-7 235 95 297 12 62 0-1 1-0 2-2 6-6 201 9.2 -4.6 4.6


so 7 in the top 50 and 9 in the top 100 by seasons end?


Seems odd when Jeff Goodman (also of ESPN) is saying we are overrated does it not? Perhaps this points out that ESPN is not so biased after all. Or perhaps it just points out that one part of ESPN does not speak to another part.
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Postby Bill Marsh » Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:43 pm

robinreed wrote:
Hall2012 wrote:
robinreed wrote:ESPN RPI
2014-15 RPI
RK (RPI) TEAM RPI D1 W-L SOS NCRP NCSS CFRP CFSS 1-25 26-50 51-100 L12 LRPI OFFQ DEFQ ASM
1 (6) Villanova .6820 14-1 21 6 62 18 28 1-1 3-0 4-0 11-1 11 11.9 9.3 21.2
2 (11) Seton Hall .6484 12-2 54 3 132 1 8 2-2 1-0 2-0 10-2 67 6.7 9.0 15.7
3 (17) Providence .6332 12-4 19 53 19 41 79 0-1 3-0 4-1 8-4 21 5.5 8.8 14.3
4 (28) St. John's .6132 10-4 11 10 46 107 20 0-3 0-1 4-0 8-4 8 4.6 10.3 14.9
5 (32) Butler .6077 11-5 24 27 88 47 21 1-3 2-0 1-2 7-5 34 3.9 12.6 16.5
6 (33) Georgetown .6066 10-4 18 73 24 51 75 0-2 0-1 3-1 8-4 27 8.7 5.9 14.6
7 (51) Xavier .5878 10-4 77 59 108 81 85 0-0 2-0 1-3 8-4 124 15.3 2.8 18.1
8 (88) Marquette .5514 9-6 66 88 101 99 74 1-1 1-3 1-0 8-4 61 4.5 6.6 11.1
9 (103) Creighton .5393 9-6 145 50 201 147 58 1-1 0-2 1-2 6-6 106 5.3 4.1 9.4
10 (191) DePaul .4834 8-7 235 95 297 12 62 0-1 1-0 2-2 6-6 201 9.2 -4.6 4.6


so 7 in the top 50 and 9 in the top 100 by seasons end?


Seems odd when Jeff Goodman (also of ESPN) is saying we are overrated does it not? Perhaps this points out that ESPN is not so biased after all. Or perhaps it just points out that one part of ESPN does not speak to another part.


Yes, it seems very odd. To confirm your opinion, here's the latest from RPI Forecast after last night's games:

BIG EAST

5, Villanova
22. Seton Hall
25. Xavier
37. Providence
38. Butler
40. Georgetown
41. St. John's
103. Marquette
129. Creighton
216. DePaul

CONFERENCES

1. Big XII
2. BIG EAST
3. ACC
4. Big Ten
5. SEC
6. PAC-12
7. A10
8. American
9. West Coast
10. MAC
11. Missouri Valley
12. Mountain West
13. Ivy League
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Re: RPI RANKING: FEEL FREE TO ADD OTHER RANKINGS

Postby stever20 » Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:24 pm

1 thing looking at RPI forecast- we're starting to see records being an issue. For instance St John's now projected to be only 8-10 in conference play. That puts them with a loss to Duke at 18-12. That's a lot of losses, and a projected RPI of 50.9. To get to 18-12 even now, they would need to go 8-8 rest of the way. They still have 6 with DePaul, Creighton, and Marquette, so that's good- but still you wonder about their resume with only quality wins so far vs Minnesota and Syracuse(though both of those not projected to be top 50 even.
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Re: RPI RANKING: FEEL FREE TO ADD OTHER RANKINGS

Postby stever20 » Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:29 pm

stever20 wrote:was looking at last years Ken Pom/RPI and this years Ken Pom/RPI- last year thru 1/9(so after 3rd set of games)

last year kp/rpi
Villanova 5/6
Creighton 7/24
Xavier 28/25
Georgetown 40/54
Marquette 44/101
St John's 70/55
Providence 71/68
Butler 76/81
DePaul 125/110
Seton Hall 126/129

this year
Villanova 5/6
Xavier 29/55
Seton Hall 30/11
St John's 35/36
Butler 37/33
Georgetown 41/37
Providence 46/18
Marquette 91/101
Creighton 93/116
DePaul 189/206

last year avg- 59.2/65.3
this year avg- 59.6/61.9

I think it's interesting that our average Ken Pom rating is a smidge lower- but our average RPI is a decent bit better. It'll be interesting to see how tonight impacts things. The Seton Hall/Xavier game huge. Could see Xavier's RPI start to crater if they lose tonight- would take their own winning pct from .692 down to .610. And they're at that point of the ratings where a lot of teams collect- where a loss there impacts maybe a smidge more than other places in the ratings.


Creighton's RPI dropped from 116 down to 138 after tonight.
DePaul's RPI moved from 206 up to 173 after tonight.
such a big move because of the road win/home loss.

right now- Creighton's RPI record is 6.6-6.2 .516. DePaul is 7.4-7.2 .507
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Re: RPI RANKING: FEEL FREE TO ADD OTHER RANKINGS

Postby robinreed » Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:42 pm

Someone please explain this from warrennolan.com to me. Is it simply an entry mistake or what. The number 1 and 9 teams in conference have the same pct. Thank you


Big East
Conference Rank Value
RPI 1 0.5914
NPI 3 84.30
Non-Conference Record
92 - 30 (0.7541)
Big East
Records include games against Division I opponents only.
Conference Overall RPI
# Team W - L Pct GB W - L Pct Rank Pct vs 1-50 Last 10 Streak
1 DePaul 3 - 0 1.000 - 9 - 7 0.562 174 0.4958 2 - 1 4 - 6 3 Wins
2 Villanova 2 - 1 0.667 1 14 - 1 0.933 5 0.6834 5 - 1 9 - 1 1 Win
2 Seton Hall 2 - 1 0.667 1 12 - 3 0.800 13 0.6387 3 - 3 7 - 3 1 Loss
2 Providence 2 - 1 0.667 1 12 - 4 0.750 16 0.6280 3 - 1 6 - 4 1 Win
2 Xavier 2 - 1 0.667 1 11 - 4 0.733 37 0.5963 3 - 0 6 - 4 1 Win
2 Georgetown 2 - 1 0.667 1 10 - 4 0.714 33 0.6022 0 - 4 6 - 4 2 Wins
7 Butler 1 - 2 0.333 2 11 - 5 0.688 28 0.6086 3 - 3 6 - 4 1 Loss
7 Marquette 1 - 2 0.333 2 9 - 6 0.600 98 0.5460 2 - 3 6 - 4 1 Loss
9 Saint John's 0 - 3 0.000 3 10 - 4 0.714 36 0.5986 0 - 4 7 - 3 3 Losses
9 Creighton 0 - 3 0.000 3 9 - 7 0.562 138 0.5159 1 - 2 4 - 6 4 Losses

ESPN RPI


BIG EAST

2014-15 RPI
RK (RPI) TEAM RPI D1 W-L SOS NCRP NCSS CFRP CFSS 1-25 26-50 51-100 L12 LRPI OFFQ DEFQ ASM
1 (6) Villanova .6834 14-1 22 4 50 21 28 1-1 4-0 3-0 11-1 11 12.0 9.1 21.1
2 (10) Seton Hall .6428 12-3 35 6 121 19 15 2-1 1-2 1-0 9-3 57 6.0 8.3 14.3
3 (15) Providence .6335 12-4 19 64 15 46 92 0-1 2-0 5-1 8-4 20 5.5 8.6 14.1
4 (27) Butler .6126 11-5 20 23 73 52 21 1-3 2-0 1-2 7-5 28 4.1 12.5 16.5
5 (29) St. John's .6106 10-4 14 9 46 119 23 0-3 0-1 4-0 8-4 12 4.7 10.1 14.8
6 (30) Georgetown .6084 10-4 15 76 20 57 86 0-2 0-2 4-0 8-4 23 8.7 5.7 14.4
7 (33) Xavier .6032 11-4 59 45 108 39 53 1-0 2-0 1-2 8-4 115 14.6 3.3 17.8
8 (82) Marquette .5537 9-6 63 86 95 100 76 1-1 1-3 1-0 8-4 55 4.7 6.3 11.0
9 (122) Creighton .5253 9-7 136 77 198 178 87 1-1 0-2 1-2 5-7 110 4.8 3.7 8.4
10 (156) DePaul .5041 9-7 221 108 293 16 74 0-1 2-0 1-1 6-6 177 9.0 -3.9 5.1
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Re: RPI RANKING: FEEL FREE TO ADD OTHER RANKINGS

Postby Bill Marsh » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:13 pm

robinreed wrote:Someone please explain this from warrennolan.com to me. Is it simply an entry mistake or what. The number 1 and 9 teams in conference have the same pct. Thank you


Big East
Conference Rank Value
RPI 1 0.5914
NPI 3 84.30
Non-Conference Record
92 - 30 (0.7541)
Big East
Records include games against Division I opponents only.
Conference Overall RPI
# Team W - L Pct GB W - L Pct Rank Pct vs 1-50 Last 10 Streak
1 DePaul 3 - 0 1.000 - 9 - 7 0.562 174 0.4958 2 - 1 4 - 6 3 Wins
2 Villanova 2 - 1 0.667 1 14 - 1 0.933 5 0.6834 5 - 1 9 - 1 1 Win
2 Seton Hall 2 - 1 0.667 1 12 - 3 0.800 13 0.6387 3 - 3 7 - 3 1 Loss
2 Providence 2 - 1 0.667 1 12 - 4 0.750 16 0.6280 3 - 1 6 - 4 1 Win
2 Xavier 2 - 1 0.667 1 11 - 4 0.733 37 0.5963 3 - 0 6 - 4 1 Win
2 Georgetown 2 - 1 0.667 1 10 - 4 0.714 33 0.6022 0 - 4 6 - 4 2 Wins
7 Butler 1 - 2 0.333 2 11 - 5 0.688 28 0.6086 3 - 3 6 - 4 1 Loss
7 Marquette 1 - 2 0.333 2 9 - 6 0.600 98 0.5460 2 - 3 6 - 4 1 Loss
9 Saint John's 0 - 3 0.000 3 10 - 4 0.714 36 0.5986 0 - 4 7 - 3 3 Losses
9 Creighton 0 - 3 0.000 3 9 - 7 0.562 138 0.5159 1 - 2 4 - 6 4 Losses

ESPN RPI


BIG EAST

2014-15 RPI
RK (RPI) TEAM RPI D1 W-L SOS NCRP NCSS CFRP CFSS 1-25 26-50 51-100 L12 LRPI OFFQ DEFQ ASM
1 (6) Villanova .6834 14-1 22 4 50 21 28 1-1 4-0 3-0 11-1 11 12.0 9.1 21.1
2 (10) Seton Hall .6428 12-3 35 6 121 19 15 2-1 1-2 1-0 9-3 57 6.0 8.3 14.3
3 (15) Providence .6335 12-4 19 64 15 46 92 0-1 2-0 5-1 8-4 20 5.5 8.6 14.1
4 (27) Butler .6126 11-5 20 23 73 52 21 1-3 2-0 1-2 7-5 28 4.1 12.5 16.5
5 (29) St. John's .6106 10-4 14 9 46 119 23 0-3 0-1 4-0 8-4 12 4.7 10.1 14.8
6 (30) Georgetown .6084 10-4 15 76 20 57 86 0-2 0-2 4-0 8-4 23 8.7 5.7 14.4
7 (33) Xavier .6032 11-4 59 45 108 39 53 1-0 2-0 1-2 8-4 115 14.6 3.3 17.8
8 (82) Marquette .5537 9-6 63 86 95 100 76 1-1 1-3 1-0 8-4 55 4.7 6.3 11.0
9 (122) Creighton .5253 9-7 136 77 198 178 87 1-1 0-2 1-2 5-7 110 4.8 3.7 8.4
10 (156) DePaul .5041 9-7 221 108 293 16 74 0-1 2-0 1-1 6-6 177 9.0 -3.9 5.1
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The overall record for both teams in 9-7, so they both have the same winning percentage.
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Re: RPI RANKING: FEEL FREE TO ADD OTHER RANKINGS

Postby Bill Marsh » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:20 pm

Latest from RPI Forecast, incorporating last night's results:

BIG EAST

6. Villanova
20. Xavier
24. Seton Hall
35. Butler
36. Providence
39. Georgetown
41. St. John's
102. Marquette
154. Creighton
194. DePaul

Even though it was at home, it was a big win.
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Re: RPI RANKING: FEEL FREE TO ADD OTHER RANKINGS

Postby robinreed » Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:31 am

Warren NOLAN

Big East
Records include games against Division I opponents only.
Conference Overall RPI
# Team W - L Pct GB W - L Pct Rank Pct vs 1-50 Last 10 Streak
1 DePaul 3 - 0 1.000 - 9 - 7 0.562 177 0.4942 2 - 1 4 - 6 3 Wins
2 Villanova 2 - 1 0.667 1 14 - 1 0.933 6 0.6832 4 - 1 9 - 1 1 Win
2 Seton Hall 2 - 1 0.667 1 12 - 3 0.800 12 0.6395 3 - 3 7 - 3 1 Loss
2 Providence 2 - 1 0.667 1 12 - 4 0.750 17 0.6272 2 - 1 6 - 4 1 Win
2 Xavier 2 - 1 0.667 1 11 - 4 0.733 32 0.6018 3 - 0 6 - 4 1 Win
2 Georgetown 2 - 1 0.667 1 10 - 4 0.714 36 0.6003 0 - 4 6 - 4 2 Wins
7 Butler 1 - 2 0.333 2 11 - 5 0.688 27 0.6085 3 - 3 6 - 4 1 Loss
7 Marquette 1 - 2 0.333 2 9 - 6 0.600 101 0.5425 2 - 3 6 - 4 1 Loss
9 Saint John's 0 - 3 0.000 3 10 - 4 0.714 37 0.5992 0 - 4 7 - 3 3 Losses
9 Creighton 0 - 3 0.000 3 9 - 7 0.562 136 0.5175 1 - 2 4 - 6 4 Losses

ESPN

2014-15 RPI
RK (RPI) TEAM RPI D1 W-L SOS NCRP NCSS CFRP CFSS 1-25 26-50 51-100 L12 LRPI OFFQ DEFQ ASM
1 (6) Villanova .6831 14-1 23 4 53 19 28 4-1 1-0 3-0 11-1 9 12.0 9.2 21.1
2 (11) Seton Hall .6433 12-3 36 6 115 16 14 3-1 0-2 1-0 9-3 52 6.0 8.4 14.4
3 (16) Providence .6326 12-4 20 60 16 43 93 1-1 1-0 5-1 8-4 18 5.5 8.6 14.1
4 (24) Butler .6121 11-5 19 22 76 50 19 2-3 1-0 1-2 7-5 29 4.1 12.4 16.5
5 (25) St. John's .6116 10-4 12 10 44 122 23 0-4 0-0 4-0 8-4 12 4.6 10.2 14.8
6 (30) Xavier .6082 11-4 47 43 87 34 50 1-0 2-0 1-3 8-4 110 14.6 3.3 17.9
7 (31) Georgetown .6066 10-4 18 77 21 54 83 0-3 0-1 4-0 8-4 20 8.7 5.7 14.4
8 (91) Marquette .5498 9-6 67 83 114 101 71 1-1 1-3 1-0 8-4 51 4.7 6.2 10.9
9 (126) Creighton .5272 9-7 129 79 193 184 85 1-1 0-2 1-2 5-7 107 4.8 3.7 8.5
10 (160) DePaul .5024 9-7 230 106 300 14 69 0-1 2-0 1-1 6-6 180 8.9 -3.9 5.0

RPI FORECAST

Big East Conference
Expected RPI: 2
Current RPI: 1
Current OOC Record: 91-29 (0.7583)
Expected OOC Record: 93-30 (0.7561)
Expected OOC RPI: 2
Expected OOC SOS: 3
RPI
8.5 Villanova 0.6419 0.5634 38 14-1 27-4 2-1 14-4 3-2 6-2 5-1 8-0 5-0 13-0 8 91 6
25.6 Xavier 0.6042 0.5812 12 11-4 21-10 2-1 11-7 2-3 4-2 5-2 7-3 2-1 10-3 30 38 32
29.4 Seton Hall 0.5990 0.5642 36 12-3 21-9 2-1 11-7 2-3 3-4 3-1 7-1 5-0 10-2 22 119 12
37.9 Butler 0.5876 0.5642 37 11-5 21-10 2-2 12-7 3-4 3-2 3-2 7-1 5-0 9-3 75 164 27
39.2 Providence 0.5863 0.5776 15 12-4 20-11 2-1 10-8 2-4 4-2 5-1 5-2 3-1 10-3 31 45 17
45.0 Georgetown 0.5807 0.5874 7 10-4 17-12 2-2 9-10 1-6 3-4 3-1 5-1 4-0 8-2 29 23 36
46.3 St. John's 0.5791 0.5826 11 10-4 19-11 0-3 8-10 1-6 3-3 4-1 6-1 5-0 10-2 18 21 37
105.7 Marquette 0.5349 0.5710 29 9-6 15-15 1-2 7-11 1-7 2-5 3-1 4-2 4-1 8-4 115 88 101
155.1 Creighton 0.5074 0.5526 60 9-7 13-18 0-3 4-14 2-5 1-6 1-4 4-2 5-2 9-4 126 226 136
192.4 DePaul 0.4878 0.5407 82 9-7 12-19 3-0 6-12 1-4 2-6 1-4 3-3 4-2 6-7 285 315 177

REALTIME RPI

Men's Basketball - Big East (2014-2015)

Conf. RPI Rank: 2 Conf. SOS Rank: 1

Only games against Division I opponents are counted.
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RPI Rk Big East Conf All RPI SOS Rk SOS
Up 2 From Last Week 5 Villanova 2-1 14-1 0.6859 9 0.5976
Down 3 From Last Week 13 Seton Hall 2-1 12-3 0.6411 29 0.5760
Up 13 From Last WeekUp 13 From Last Week 18 Providence 2-1 12-4 0.6283 14 0.5904
Down 9 From Last Week 31 Butler 1-2 11-5 0.6063 16 0.5877
Down 7 From Last Week 37 St. John's 0-3 10-4 0.5968 11 0.5958
Up 15 From Last WeekUp 15 From Last Week 39 Xavier 2-1 11-4 0.5948 48 0.5567
44 Georgetown 2-1 10-4 0.5930 22 0.5808
Up 10 From Last WeekUp 10 From Last Week 91 Marquette 1-2 9-6 0.5469 52 0.5540
Down 25 From Last WeekDown 25 From Last Week 125 Creighton 0-3 9-7 0.5249 101 0.5279
Up 26 From Last WeekUp 26 From Last Week 174 DePaul 3-0 9-7 0.4976 172 0.4968
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Re: RPI RANKING: FEEL FREE TO ADD OTHER RANKINGS

Postby Jet915 » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:26 pm

Shockingly, Jay Bilas tweeted that the Big East is the #1 RPI conference:

Jay Bilas ‏@JayBilas 5h5 hours ago
Big East just moved above Big 12 in the RPI as the No. 1 conference. DePaul is 3-0 and in 1st place, yet rated 177th in RPI, lowest in BE.
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Re: RPI RANKING: FEEL FREE TO ADD OTHER RANKINGS

Postby gofriars08 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:36 pm

Latest RPI's

Nova - 4
SHU - 12
PC - 14
Butler - 23
GTown - 36
Xavier - 40
SJU - 42
Marquette - 112
Creighton - 136
DePaul - 174
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