Depaul = Bubble Burtser

[OldSchoolDemon]

I find this thread pulling me in 2 directions: feeling for the conference as a whole at how pitiful DePaul has been for 8 years now and dragging down the conference reputation, but more their own reputation; and also laughing at the implication that DePaul should be rolling over against all of it's opponents because they've sucked for so long. The conference is just fine when DePaul sucks because DePaul beats no one, but now they beat Marquette, in a transition year with 8 scholarship players, and a Xavier team who can't win on the road and all of a sudden they're dragging down the conference?

I won't sit and here and say that DePaul is going to pull off a USF type season because I believe Purnell has not instilled an ounce of teaching in this team and the only thing that is missing is a Pat Kennedy-esque quote of "rolling the ball out there", but DePaul has some talent this year and is a more complete team than it's been in a while and to be honest I want to see them win because I'm sick of losing. I, like most DePaul fans, are tired of being doormats, being mocked by every teams fan base, and being embarrassed at how historically bad they've been so I certainly can't sit here and feel sorry for any opponent losing to DePaul because all of you have been basically playing scrimmage games against them for quite some time. DePaul will probably revert back to their mean, but they may not and as a result could be the team they should have been in Year Three under any other coach worth his salt which would mean a possible upward trend moving forward

[DemonLS]

DePaul still is not at full strength. 2 centers still out with injuries. Hopefully, they both return soon.

Unfortunately, DePaul's program has been down for about 20 years with about 3 decent years in between.

The right coach and administration will make this a top tier team and program in the Big East. They better find that answer soon as they have a new stadium coming in a few years with a $75M share to pay plus game rental fees. This is big money!

[Freshjive2103]

I am seriously hoping that DePaul goes 9-9 and the Big East conference is shown to be what it is; a strong but not elite conference. You people complaining, the losses by Nova, St. John's, and PC have more to do with the Big East coming back to Earth than DePaul going 2-0 to start off.

[TheBall]

So why did those 2 teams lose to a sorry excuse for a team like DePaul? Stop respecting your opponent then don't be mad when you lose and not make it to the tournament. No excuse to losing against this team. Their RPI is not a fluke. They didn't have a strange single lose against a bad team in December....they lost to a bunch of them.

Ummm, because depaul actually has some good players, so when they try they can win at home.

You seem to be missing the point here. The issue is not teams losing at depaul when depaul is trying. The issue is depaul taking December off, losing by double digits to a half dozen teams that were no good, and completely destroying their rpi and dragging down the conference and any team they beat with them.

If depaul just tried in December and kept a respectable rpi, even say 100'ish entering January, all would be fine. Marquette's season might not be over, and xavier would not have just seriously injured their tourney hopes. But depaul dogged it all December, and now marquette's season is over and xavier is on life support.

[ivet]

So why did those 2 teams lose to a sorry excuse for a team like DePaul? Stop respecting your opponent then don't be mad when you lose and not make it to the tournament. No excuse to losing against this team. Their RPI is not a fluke. They didn't have a strange single lose against a bad team in December....they lost to a bunch of them.

Ummm, because depaul actually has some good players, so when they try they can win at home.

You seem to be missing the point here. The issue is not teams losing at depaul when depaul is trying. The issue is depaul taking December off, losing by double digits to a half dozen teams that were no good, and completely destroying their rpi and dragging down the conference and any team they beat with them.

If depaul just tried in December and kept a respectable rpi, even say 100'ish entering January, all would be fine. Marquette's season might not be over, and xavier would not have just seriously injured their tourney hopes. But depaul dogged it all December, and now marquette's season is over and xavier is on life support.

Ummm.. DePaul doesn't have some good players. DePaul has 1 decent player by BG jr. 4 star ranked player listed at like 92. Everyone else was a 3 star or less. The past few years DePaul has been at the bottom if not the bottom in the conference in recruiting. There are a few Chicago HS teams that could beat this team.

I've watched majority of the DePaul games- well ones that have been aired on tv. And as a DePaul fan and alum. I can tell you they suck compared to the rest of the big east so their RPI and OoC record is correct. The past two games they've won was because the other team either got out coached or they got out hustled or came into the game like it was a guaranteed win-maybe a combination of all 3. They definitely didn't win because DePaul had better talent.But to be angry at DePaul for actually winning is dumb, you should blame the other team for losing to a weak ass team. I don't recall you blaming Xavier for hurting georgetowns chances...even worst now since the team that beat them lost to the worst team in the conference.

I also recall an announcer stating that DePaul is at the bottom for win% in division 1 basketball in the past 5 years under OP. You could also includes Jerry wainwrights era in there as well.

[Freshjive2103]

Ummm.. DePaul doesn't have some good players. DePaul has 1 decent player by BG jr. 4 star ranked player listed at like 92. Everyone else was a 3 star or less. The past few years DePaul has been at the bottom if not the bottom in the conference in recruiting. There are a few Chicago HS teams that could beat this team.

Kinda Wrong. You are looking at their HS recruiting rankings, which does not consider transfers. Myke henry is actually the highest rated guy. He had a rsci ranking of 67 (39 by rivals, 64 by scout, 94 by ESPN) Darrick Wood was in the 100-110 range in 2012. Tommy Hamilton was actually a top 50 guy going into his last AAU season, where he took much of the summer off for injury and academics and then transferred to IMG.

Talent is not the issue.

[DemonLS]

Talent at DePaul is definitely NOT the issue.

IMO too.....the talent level between the mid-majors and the NON-top tier schools is closer than it has been in awhile. Top Tier programs are schools like Kentucky, Duke, Arizona, NC, Kansas, Wisconsin, Louisville and a few others are definitely ahead of the pack. But the P5 schools outside the VERY best are beatable by the mid-majors and NON-top tier schools.

This is why college basketball is the greatest sport on the planet. This would never happen in college football. Hopefully, we are in for a great NCAA Tournament because of this.

[ivet]

Ummm.. DePaul doesn't have some good players. DePaul has 1 decent player by BG jr. 4 star ranked player listed at like 92. Everyone else was a 3 star or less. The past few years DePaul has been at the bottom if not the bottom in the conference in recruiting. There are a few Chicago HS teams that could beat this team.

Kinda Wrong. You are looking at their HS recruiting rankings, which does not consider transfers. Myke henry is actually the highest rated guy. He had a rsci ranking of 67 (39 by rivals, 64 by scout, 94 by ESPN) Darrick Wood was in the 100-110 range in 2012. Tommy Hamilton was actually a top 50 guy going into his last AAU season, where he took much of the summer off for injury and academics and then transferred to IMG.

Talent is not the issue.

So you basically have 3 guys in the top 100...keep in mind tommy and BG are only sophomores .and tommy didn't even play against Marquette. That's not exactly a roster to go gags over.

[DudeAnon]

If nothing else, its nice to see the DePaul posters return to the forum.

[HoosierPal]

You know what is going to happen. Purnell will win just enough games to keep his job.