Memphis and Cincy to Big 12?

[NJRedman]

How would everyone feel if both UConn and Umass dropped football? Would they be a good package deal to basically shore up the entirety of New England? CT, RI and MA would mean we control New England more than any other conference. Then we still have viable options in the mid-west if we still want to expand out there.

Big East 14: Current members + UConn, UMass, SLU & Wichita.

Not believing this will happen, just post minor surgery pain killer induced day dreaming. haha

[gosports1]

i feel like SLU belongs in the BE. However i really like the home and home setup the BE has.

i cant see UConn ever giving up its FB dreams. if by some miracle they did, than without a doubt they should be first target. i think we all agree on that

[NJRedman]

i feel like SLU belongs in the BE. However i really like the home and home setup the BE has.

i cant see UConn ever giving up its FB dreams. if by some miracle they did, than without a doubt they should be first target. i think we all agree on that

I agree with the 10, but we need to keep and eye on what the FB5 end up doing. If they go all Lord of the Flies and pick apart the Big XII and each expand to 16 we should look at expanding to keep up with the joneses and pick up the best BBall programs left out there who have no interest in FBS FB.

If the Big XII gets picked apart then my day dream of the BE 14 might be our best bet. Hell we could still go to 16 with VCU and dayton in that scenario.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Theoretically, couldn't the Big East add Saint Louis to get to 11, and still keep the round-robin scheduling? It would subtract two OOC games (20 total conference games), but it could replace give-me games against an Alabama A&M, Tennessee Tech, SW Missouri State, etc.

Personally, I love the 18-game round robin we have. Very few teams should be considered to disrupt that. Saint Louis, however, brings another private, basketball-focused school,in a big market. IMO, if Rick Majerus was still alive, I believe SLU to already be in the Big East. SLU is having a pretty solid season thus far. Interested to see how they play in A-10 with all the new kids on the team.

[notkirkcameron]

Theoretically, couldn't the Big East add Saint Louis to get to 11, and still keep the round-robin scheduling? It would subtract two OOC games (20 total conference games), but it could replace give-me games against an Alabama A&M, Tennessee Tech, SW Missouri State, etc.

Personally, I love the 18-game round robin we have. Very few teams should be considered to disrupt that. Saint Louis, however, brings another private, basketball-focused school,in a big market. IMO, if Rick Majerus was still alive, I believe SLU to already be in the Big East. SLU is having a pretty solid season thus far. Interested to see how they play in A-10 with all the new kids on the team.

I'm convinced that aside from SLU's relatively nascent basketball success, that there were political considerations as well. SLU's former President, Fr. Biondi had a reputation as kind of a mad king, who ruled SLU like a mafia don and made plenty of enemies during his time there. (I can speak to this as I got my JD from SLU).

With two of the Catholic 7 univiersities already being Jesuit (Marquette and Georgetown), and a third (Xavier) considered a lock for expansion from the start, I always wonder how much past experiences among the Jesuit presidents played into SLU not getting an invite to join the Big East.


To answer an earlier question, I'm OK with UMass on three conditions.
1.) That they are a package deal with UConn
2.) That both UConn and UMass drop FBS football.
3.) That the conference does not split its scheduling along "Divisional" lines. A "Big East West" of Creighton, X, MU, DPU, and Butler kind of defeats the point of the conference, and draws unnecessary demarcations.

[BEwannabe]

Theoretically, couldn't the Big East add Saint Louis to get to 11, and still keep the round-robin scheduling? It would subtract two OOC games (20 total conference games), but it could replace give-me games against an Alabama A&M, Tennessee Tech, SW Missouri State, etc.

Personally, I love the 18-game round robin we have. Very few teams should be considered to disrupt that. Saint Louis, however, brings another private, basketball-focused school,in a big market. IMO, if Rick Majerus was still alive, I believe SLU to already be in the Big East. SLU is having a pretty solid season thus far. Interested to see how they play in A-10 with all the new kids on the team.

SLU is having a pretty solid season?

Current RPI - 258, forecast RPI - 269, by those standards DePaul is having a great season, current RPI of 188 and forecasted 196.

Always something interesting to read around here.

[R Jay]

Theoretically, couldn't the Big East add Saint Louis to get to 11, and still keep the round-robin scheduling? It would subtract two OOC games (20 total conference games), but it could replace give-me games against an Alabama A&M, Tennessee Tech, SW Missouri State, etc.

Personally, I love the 18-game round robin we have. Very few teams should be considered to disrupt that. Saint Louis, however, brings another private, basketball-focused school,in a big market. IMO, if Rick Majerus was still alive, I believe SLU to already be in the Big East. SLU is having a pretty solid season thus far. Interested to see how they play in A-10 with all the new kids on the team.

SLU is having a pretty solid season?

Current RPI - 258, forecast RPI - 269, by those standards DePaul is having a great season, current RPI of 188 and forecasted 196.

Always something interesting to read around here.

That's all you have? I'm really disappointed. You have to step your troll game up to stay relevant, man.

[stever20]

He is right though. SLU has zero wins against top 200 rpi teams right now...

And for those that say the RPI is early, here's their wins-
Southern Illinois
Indiana St
NC A&T
Bradley
Rockhurst
SIU Edwardsville
Texas Pan American

2 of those teams have 0 D1 wins and a 3rd is not D1 at all. Right now they have the #323 SOS in the country. They have losses vs Mississippi St, South Dakota St, and Texas A&M- Corpus Christi.

That's far from a solid season.

[Professor_Bulldog]

Theoretically, couldn't the Big East add Saint Louis to get to 11, and still keep the round-robin scheduling? It would subtract two OOC games (20 total conference games), but it could replace give-me games against an Alabama A&M, Tennessee Tech, SW Missouri State, etc.

Personally, I love the 18-game round robin we have. Very few teams should be considered to disrupt that. Saint Louis, however, brings another private, basketball-focused school,in a big market. IMO, if Rick Majerus was still alive, I believe SLU to already be in the Big East. SLU is having a pretty solid season thus far. Interested to see how they play in A-10 with all the new kids on the team.

SLU is having a pretty solid season?

Current RPI - 258, forecast RPI - 269, by those standards DePaul is having a great season, current RPI of 188 and forecasted 196.

Always something interesting to read around here.

That's all you have? I'm really disappointed. You have to step your troll game up to stay relevant, man.

How is that trolling? Seems a legit point to me

[DeltaV]

i feel like SLU belongs in the BE. However i really like the home and home setup the BE has.

i cant see UConn ever giving up its FB dreams. if by some miracle they did, than without a doubt they should be first target. i think we all agree on that

I agree with the 10, but we need to keep and eye on what the FB5 end up doing. If they go all Lord of the Flies and pick apart the Big XII and each expand to 16 we should look at expanding to keep up with the joneses and pick up the best BBall programs left out there who have no interest in FBS FB.

If the Big XII gets picked apart then my day dream of the BE 14 might be our best bet. Hell we could still go to 16 with VCU and dayton in that scenario.

I like the idea of waiting and seeing who gets 'rejected' from the 'final solution' to the college football situation. The Big 12 and the ACC are, I think, the weaker two of the five (PAC gets thrown in there too sometimes, but they own their region). The only problem is that the SEC is between them, creating some interesting geographical issues if the stronger football programs of the two were to try and merge.

Still, there will be some teams left on the outside of a 4x16 situation. Wake? NC State? I don't pay enough attention to college football to know what teams are terrible. I think Duke is such a name that they would end up 'in' no matter what, so we should all put down that pipe. BC? Heck, even Syracuse; has their football program been worth anything in the past 15-20 years? By my count, there are 65 teams in the P5...that means 1 team on the outside, and no chance for UConn getting in.

People laughed at the 'old' Big East right before we left as being CUSA part II...heck, we do the same now with the AAC. If we bring in a Dayton, VCU, SLU, we open ourselves up more to being the A10 part II. I think we stay the course, and pick up the big names if we can get them; WF vs. GTown sounds like a major conference matchup to the 'average fan'...VCU vs. Butler doesn't.