Memphis and Cincy to Big 12?

[yorost]

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't say the time is now, either, as it's so confusing a situation I don't really know. It's more that I can't think of a realignment move that might impress me more, just from the audacity of it. I'd love to see it if for no other reason than to see the whole process unfold.

[DudeAnon]

Also, I never want UC (Cincy) to be invited to join the Big 12. Let them tender invitations to BYU and Memphis, but keep Cincy out of the talks. As an XU fan, it's been he|| for all but the last two years being dubbed the Bearcats' red-headed step-brother. They maintained this stance even during the last decades during which time the Muskies have dominated them on the court. Now WE are in the dominant Conference and I want it to remain that way. It's easier to do so as long as UC is mired in the AAAAAAAAAAC.

I actually hope UC gets invited to the big 12. It's good for the city and UC fans aren't dedicated enough to go to their games if they are in the AAC, it's almost depressing how fleeting their fan base is.

[Bill Marsh]

Also, I never want UC (Cincy) to be invited to join the Big 12. Let them tender invitations to BYU and Memphis, but keep Cincy out of the talks. As an XU fan, it's been he|| for all but the last two years being dubbed the Bearcats' red-headed step-brother. They maintained this stance even during the last decades during which time the Muskies have dominated them on the court. Now WE are in the dominant Conference and I want it to remain that way. It's easier to do so as long as UC is mired in the AAAAAAAAAAC.

I actually hope UC gets invited to the big 12. It's good for the city and UC fans aren't dedicated enough to go to their games if they are in the AAC, it's almost depressing how fleeting their fan base is.

The AAC schedule is hurting UConn attendance here in CT as well. And this is a basketball crazy state.

[robinreed]

Also, I never want UC (Cincy) to be invited to join the Big 12. Let them tender invitations to BYU and Memphis, but keep Cincy out of the talks. As an XU fan, it's been he|| for all but the last two years being dubbed the Bearcats' red-headed step-brother. They maintained this stance even during the last decades during which time the Muskies have dominated them on the court. Now WE are in the dominant Conference and I want it to remain that way. It's easier to do so as long as UC is mired in the AAAAAAAAAAC.

I actually hope UC gets invited to the big 12. It's good for the city and UC fans aren't dedicated enough to go to their games if they are in the AAC, it's almost depressing how fleeting their fan base is.

I also would like UC to get into the B12 but never the ACC. Unfortunately I suspect they are closer to the ACC than the B12 in terms of membership. I follow UC football and enjoy it. UC basketball is another matter completely. I only enjoy seeing a Cronin coached team when it suffers a loss to XU. Fortunately that happens often enough to destroy any belief in UC basketball superiority that their fans may have. Abolishing football was the worst thing X ever did per my father, grandfather and uncle. I remember going out to the stadium on Victory Pky when I was a small child to see the muskies play. Those were great Saturdays but alas all good things must eventually come to an end. The force of finance was not with us. As an XU grad who has a masters from UC I can wish the UC football program eternal life and glory and wish the UC basketball program immediate death and dishonor. I call that perspective however others may have another name for it.

[notkirkcameron]

Also, I never want UC (Cincy) to be invited to join the Big 12. Let them tender invitations to BYU and Memphis, but keep Cincy out of the talks. As an XU fan, it's been he|| for all but the last two years being dubbed the Bearcats' red-headed step-brother. They maintained this stance even during the last decades during which time the Muskies have dominated them on the court. Now WE are in the dominant Conference and I want it to remain that way. It's easier to do so as long as UC is mired in the AAAAAAAAAAC.

I actually hope UC gets invited to the big 12. It's good for the city and UC fans aren't dedicated enough to go to their games if they are in the AAC, it's almost depressing how fleeting their fan base is.

I agree with Muskieneck. Honestly, half the fun of this new conference has been watching the people who wrecked the old Big East either get buyers' remorse in their new destinations (West Virginia, Syracuse, Pittsburgh), or gnash their teeth at being left behind and squandering resources (Temple, UConn, Cincinnati). When the Big East re-formed, I always liked to imagine USF, Temple, Cincinnati, and UConn as the string quartet sadly playing on the deck of the Titanic, with all the lifeboats gone.

They had a good thing as basketball schools, but they blew it chasing football dollars that would never come. In other words, they shat the bed, and I'm perfectly happy with the scatalogical schadenfreude of watching them sleep in it.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Also, I never want UC (Cincy) to be invited to join the Big 12. Let them tender invitations to BYU and Memphis, but keep Cincy out of the talks. As an XU fan, it's been he|| for all but the last two years being dubbed the Bearcats' red-headed step-brother. They maintained this stance even during the last decades during which time the Muskies have dominated them on the court. Now WE are in the dominant Conference and I want it to remain that way. It's easier to do so as long as UC is mired in the AAAAAAAAAAC.

I actually hope UC gets invited to the big 12. It's good for the city and UC fans aren't dedicated enough to go to their games if they are in the AAC, it's almost depressing how fleeting their fan base is.

I agree with Muskieneck. Honestly, half the fun of this new conference has been watching the people who wrecked the old Big East either get buyers' remorse in their new destinations (West Virginia, Syracuse, Pittsburgh), or gnash their teeth at being left behind and squandering resources (Temple, UConn, Cincinnati). When the Big East re-formed, I always liked to imagine USF, Temple, Cincinnati, and UConn as the string quartet sadly playing on the deck of the Titanic, with all the lifeboats gone.

They had a good thing as basketball schools, but they blew it chasing football dollars that would never come. In other words, they shat the bed, and I'm perfectly happy with the scatalogical schadenfreude of watching them sleep in it.

Could not agree more, Kirk. The amount of trash I read from some of the Conference USA 2.0 fan-bases (ECU, Tulane, UCF, Tulsa, Houston, SMU and Memphis) during the whole realignment craze of 2012-13 was unbelievable. "We deserve to be in the Big East because we have been in C-USA for so long, and have earned the right to move up." "The only reason our program has is entrenched in mediocrity is because we are not in a Power 5 conference." "It's because of the C7 schools that we are in our current position because you have held us back and prevented us from making the jump." Their hostility and anger towards us was severely misplaced and misguided. The C7/Big East was not the cause of them being left behind. Their schools/athletic programs/fan-bases are to blame.

Like seriously? Their programs are in the G5 because they are mid-major programs. Guess what? If you consistently win football games and get fans to games, you will be recognized by a P5 call-up. Simple formula. Louisville did it. Syracuse did it. West Virginia certainly did it. Pittsburgh did it too. Rutgers didn't, but they were a unique situation. The AAC has been nothing short of an embarrassment this year in football and basketball. Their football conference had some of the worst teams in FBS (UCONN, SMU, Tulsa). Their basketball conference will be lucky to get 3 bids this year. Memphis has been a HUGE disappointment. Cincinnati has underachieved. As has SMU. And Temple. Who's the blame go to now? ESPN? The P5? The Big East? They are excuse-makers and finger-pointers.

But, if you actually listen to some of their non-sense, the league will be the "Power of the G5" soon because of their media markets, ESPN exposure, and prestigious programs. UCONN won the NCAA Championship last year, and their attendance is DOWN this year. And it's not due to their coaches, players, prestigious history or location. IT"S THEIR CONFERENCE AND SCHEDULING! NO ONE WANTS TO SEE UCONN PLAY TULANE, ECU, TULSA, UCF AND HOUSTON! That is a culture shock to some, but the hard, honest truth.

I sincerely hope that Cincinnati and UConn get a life-raft out of that sinking ship. Once they leave, the AAC will officially be lower than the MWC and C-USA, and these illogical arguments can cease.

[HoosierPal]

UCONN won the NCAA Championship last year, and their attendance is DOWN this year.

OK, help me out here. You are obviously a lot smarter than I am. Maybe I have a bad calculator.

UConn has had four 'home' games this year, including one at Hartford. That ain't home, but let's call it a home game. Here is the attendance

Bryant 10,167
Texas 10,167
Yale, 9,538
Coppin State 8,260 at Hartford

My calculator says the average is 9,533

The first four games in 2013-2014 were:
Yale 8,848
Detroit 8,140
Boston U 9,152
Loyola 9,497

My calculator says the average is 8,919

So the attendance looks like it is up to me.
I took these numbers off of the UConn Athletic Dept website. Perhaps they are wrong.

[stever20]

Except that the AAC can poach anyone out of CUSA that they want. Would say look out for Old Dominion. The AAC would have to lose pretty much all of UConn, Memphis, Cincy, and Temple for CUSA to have any shot- and even there- AAC could still poach at will.

I don't think you realize just how awful CUSA is. They are 15th right now- behind the IVY, MAC, and Horizon. (Interestingly enough, the MAC is having a pretty solid season- best season for them since 2008). Half of the 14 teams in CUSA are ken pom ranked 200 or worse. UAB is one of the 7 teams not ranked 200 or worse. For them to get ahead of the AAC- it would take a whole hell of a lot.

[robinreed]

Well now the rumors begin to stretch credulity even more. This evening I visited MHVER3'S twitter site and he is reporting that one of his sources in the AAC has stated that 2 schools in that conference have requested instructions on what procedure they must follow in order to withdraw from the AAC.

He does not name the universities but only says they are among the 4 or 5 which are often named as expansion candidates in that conference. In another tweet he admits some of his information is good, some is excellent and some is dead wrong. MHVER3 and his blood feud enemy THE DUDE OF W.V. are arguing over this on their various twitter accounts. If you have time to throw away as I did I suggest you go to their sites and read the posts. It is better than a rustic version of The Big Bang Theory. Unfortunately sans Penny however.

[butlerguy03]

Has there been any more chatter similar to this article? These statements seem very strong about 20 months ago.

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2013/ ... -get-paid/

I'd say WF would be tops on the list if it were to ever happen. Anyway, just wondering if there was a more recent article about these statement the President of Wake Forest made in 2013.