What it would take for each team to be ranked

[billyjack]

The great thing about the Jays' win over Oklahoma is that they have just a few speedbumps in the rest of their OOC schedule.
- at Tulsa should be a W (new mediocre coach, lot of new faces, right?).
- at Nebraska is a rivalry game on the road (an an undeserved media darling in my opinion), so it presents problems, but last year CU waxed them, up 48-8 in the late 1st half.
- vs Ole Miss should be a W.
- maybe Cincinnati (if they get matched up), but Creighton is a better team.

Those are the only games that could give Creighton a loss. You could very easily be undefeated thru the end of OOC.

And to me, yes, Creighton deserves to be ranked on Monday if they handle NC Central easily this weekend.

By the way, "at Nebraska" is a perfect game for Creighton... the Chatman-Brooks combination at guard is too good... you guys won't be intimidated on the road, you'll get a road win, and Nebraska is everyone's darling team so it can't be ignored, plus you silence your in-state rival Huskers fans again...

[stever20]

don't think it'd be this week. For one, Dayton has a game tomorrow with UConn. A Win there and they will be in the top 25 pretty much guaranteed(while UConn I think would remain).

Think probably not this week- but the following. Also remember going to be a lot of carnage next week with all the early season tournaments going on. Lots of losses flying around.

[TrueBlueJay]

billyjack - I liked your movies way back when...but I like you and the way you think even more now!

[R Jay]

The great thing about the Jays' win over Oklahoma is that they have just a few speedbumps in the rest of their OOC schedule.
- at Tulsa should be a W (new mediocre coach, lot of new faces, right?).
- at Nebraska is a rivalry game on the road (an an undeserved media darling in my opinion), so it presents problems, but last year CU waxed them, up 48-8 in the late 1st half.
- vs Ole Miss should be a W.
- maybe Cincinnati (if they get matched up), but Creighton is a better team.

Those are the only games that could give Creighton a loss. You could very easily be undefeated thru the end of OOC.

And to me, yes, Creighton deserves to be ranked on Monday if they handle NC Central easily this weekend.

By the way, "at Nebraska" is a perfect game for Creighton... the Chatman-Brooks combination at guard is too good... you guys won't be intimidated on the road, you'll get a road win, and Nebraska is everyone's darling team so it can't be ignored, plus you silence your in-state rival Huskers fans again...

Tulsa returns 4 starters, actually, but they're playing in a new system. Tulsa is 1-2 so far on the year with a loss to Oral Roberts (77-68) and wins over Louisiana-Lafayette (64-53) and Abilene Christian (65-39). The rest of the analysis looks good. Nebraska (2-0) and Ole Miss (1-1) both return the majority of their rotation from last year. Cincinnati (2-0) has lost a lot from last season so they will be interesting to see against good competition (MTSU and Creighton/Ole Miss in the Emerald Coast Classic will be their first major tests).
The NC Central game scares me a bit because NC Central is a solid low major team whom is favored to win their conference and whom played North Carolina tight (76-60). If the Jays don't come out guns a-blazing it could a tight contest.

[adoraz]

Updated...only 2 losses so far (both by Marquette)

Butler- on their way to 3-0, and been blowing out teams. November 26 tournament game vs #6 UNC should get them some votes and into the 20s. May need to win this game to be ranked before conference play starts up.
Creighton- huge win vs #18 Oklahoma on November 19 will get them some votes, especially since they experienced so much success just last year and should be given benefit of the doubt now that they've won a big game. I originally said probably won't be ranked and still feel that way, but won't be far off. Need to beat NCCU tomorrow. Their tournament Thanksgiving week and @ #21 Nebraska December 7 more chances to gain ground.
DePaul- still undefeated, but have an easy OOC schedule so will need to win out to be ranked.
#49 AP (-6)/ #41 CP (+1) Georgetown- solid 3-0 start. Winning their tournament (including #7 Florida on 11/26) would definitely get them ranked. #5 Kansas on December 10 another opportunity.
No votes (formerly #40 CP) Providence- huge week and statement win vs FSU today. If they beat ND tomorrow I could see them being ranked on Monday, or at the veast least being in the late 20's/early 30's. Similar to Creighton, they should get more respect with how they played last year and started this year. The next obvious game here is @ #1 UK on November 30.
Marquette- likely eliminated from being ranked during OOC play with their loss to Omaha today.
Seton Hall- solid 2-0 but not a tough OOC schedule. If they win the first 6 and then @ #11 Wichita State on December 9 they'll definitely be getting some votes and should be ranked.
St. John's- took care of business first 3 games. If they knock off Minnesota and (likely) #13 Gonzaga Thanksgiving week to win the NIT I think they'll be ranked. If they lose a game, @ #23 Cuse on December 6 is another opportunity.
Xavier- playing well but their schedule is pretty easy so may need to go undefeated before conference play to get any votes.

And the teams that need to worry about hanging on.... (already in the top 25)

#12 AP/ #12 CP Villanova- scary 3-0 start, but bottom line is they're 3-0. Big tough week coming up, including a tournament game vs #15 VCU. Need to win at least 1 of the 3 games to remain ranked. Win 2 to feel safe.

Great playing. Depending on the outcome of tomorrow's PC and Creighton games, we could have another team ranked on Monday. These teams deserve more respect with how they played last year.

So as for Monday, best case scenario:
Nova, Creighton, PC ranked.
Worst case scenario:
Nova ranked.
Most likely scenario:
Nova ranked.

[adoraz]

HUGE week for the BE. Will PC and Creighton be ranked tomorrow?

I'll just focus on AP since I think it means more than CP.

Best case scenario:
Nova, Creighton and PC ranked. Georgetown receiving votes.
Worst case scenario:
Nova ranked. Creighton and PC receiving votes.
Most likely scenario:
...this is really tough. I could see both Creighton and PC being ranked, I could see neither being ranked. My guess:
Nova and PC ranked. Creighton and Georgetown receiving votes.

[dmac80]

One of the pundits tweeted the winner of ND vs PC would be ranked. Not sure I'm buying it though. BE and certainly PC do not get the benefit of the doubt. If someone wanted to do the leg work, it really depends on how the bottom of the rankings and the 'others receiving votes' did this weekend. Any losses knocks them out. When I just looked I saw a huge list of others receiving votes with no PC but that was also 4 wins ago...

[RedStormHoops]

Providence should be ranked. 2 ACC teams in 2 days.

Creighton will receive votes.

Gtown needs to actually do something first.

[marquette]

One of the pundits tweeted the winner of ND vs PC would be ranked. Not sure I'm buying it though. BE and certainly PC do not get the benefit of the doubt. If someone wanted to do the leg work, it really depends on how the bottom of the rankings and the 'others receiving votes' did this weekend. Any losses knocks them out. When I just looked I saw a huge list of others receiving votes with no PC but that was also 4 wins ago...

There will be a couple open spots.
#17 UConn just lost to unranked West Virginia on a neutral court.
#18 Oklahoma lost at unranked Creighton.
#21 Nebraska lost to unranked Rhode Island.
#22 SMU got dismantled at #13 Gonzaga then lost by six at unranked indiana.
#23 Syracuse lost three days ago to unranked Cal.
#25 Utah lost at #16 San Diego State

I didn't look at the others receiving votes.

[dmac80]

One of the pundits tweeted the winner of ND vs PC would be ranked. Not sure I'm buying it though. BE and certainly PC do not get the benefit of the doubt. If someone wanted to do the leg work, it really depends on how the bottom of the rankings and the 'others receiving votes' did this weekend. Any losses knocks them out. When I just looked I saw a huge list of others receiving votes with no PC but that was also 4 wins ago...

There will be a couple open spots.
#17 UConn just lost to unranked West Virginia on a neutral court.
#18 Oklahoma lost at unranked Creighton.
#21 Nebraska lost to unranked Rhode Island.
#22 SMU got dismantled at #13 Gonzaga then lost by six at unranked indiana.
#23 Syracuse lost three days ago to unranked Cal.
#25 Utah lost at #16 San Diego State

I didn't look at the others receiving votes.

Thank you. I assume most of the large list of others receiving votes did not go 4-0 with 3 blowouts and 2 wins vs major programs. Still I have come to expect PC needs to do a little more to get noticed. Thems the breaks when you suck for a decade.