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Re: RPI RANKING: will update each week (if I remember)

Postby billyjack » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:38 am

RR, thanks for your work here, but I'm having trouble understanding this thread.

Like, not sure why the Patriot is ranked 7th, and the SWAC is 12th, and the WAC is too high...? and I think it's missing some games maybe.
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Re: RPI RANKING: will update each week (if I remember)

Postby robinreed » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:06 pm

billy jack,

I have also noticed one game missing. I am looking for a way to contact RPI to seek further information. I have used this site for 4 or 5 years and I have always found them accurate however missing games is a significant deficiency. I will post the response and info if I am able to contact them, meanwhile I will continue to post results weekly if not daily.
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Re: RPI RANKING: will update each week (if I remember)

Postby robinreed » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:11 pm

FormulaX wrote:Big East is #1 !!!

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... conference

NON-CONFERENCE OVERALL
RANK CONFERENCE W L PCT RPI RANK RPI
1 Big East Conference 21 1 0.9545 0.5983 1 0.5983
2 Atlantic Coast Con 33 5 0.8684 0.5970 2 0.5970
3 Southeastern Conf 24 8 0.7500 0.5837 3 0.5837
5 Big 12 Conference 20 3 0.8696 0.5672 5 0.5672
6 Big Ten Conferenc 30 5 0.8571 0.5601 6 0.5601
7 Patriot League 12 13 0.4800 0.5551 7 0.5551
4 Atlantic 10 Conf 20 8 0.7143 0.5760 4 0.5760
9 Western Athletic 6 13 0.3158 0.5176 9 0.5176
10 Pacific 12 Con 22 5 0.8148 0.5111 10 0.5111
11 American Athletic 14 6 0.7000 0.4980 11 0.4980
12 Big South Conferen 9 10 0.4737 0.4887 12 0.4887
13 Southwestern Athle 2 22 0.0833 0.4797 13 0.4797
14 Colonial Athletic A 10 12 0.4545 0.4771 14 0.4771
15 West Coast Confere 16 5 0.7619 0.4703 15 0.4703
8 Missouri Valley Cone 9 7 0.5625 0.5218 8 0.5218
16 America East Confe 6 14 0.3000 0.4604 16 0.4604
17 Mid American Confe 14 5 0.7368 0.4404 18 0.4404
18 Metro Atlantic Athl 7 13 0.3500 0.4518 17 0.4358
20 Northeast Conferen 4 16 0.2000 0.4240 20 0.4240
21 Mid Eastern Athleti 3 29 0.0938 0.4044 21 0.4044
22 Conference USA 14 10 0.5833 0.4031 22 0.4031
23 Southern Confere 6 13 0.3158 0.4030 23 0.4030
24 Mountain West Co 16 7 0.6957 0.4022 24 0.4022
19 Southland Confere 0 17 0.0000 0.4329 19 0.4329
25 Big Sky Conferen6 17 0.2609 0.3881 25 0.3881
26 Independents 1 2 0.3333 0.3750 26 0.3750
27 Big West Conference 5 12 0.2941 0.3562 27 0.3562
28 Summit League 5 13 0.2778 0.3479 28 0.3479
29 Horizon League 4 14 0.2222 0.3414 29 0.3414
30 Sun Belt Conference 5 10 0.3333 0.3365 30 0.3365
31 Atlantic Sun 5 14 0.2632 0.3212 31 0.3212
32 Ivy League 6 13 0.3158 0.3008 32 0.3008
33 Ohio Valley Conference 4 17 0.1905 0.2462 33 0.2462



This is a good ranking FormulaX. Would you consider updating this ranking on this thread weekly? Someone may also post the ESPN and other rankings if they so choose.
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Re: RPI RANKING: will update each week (if I remember)

Postby robinreed » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:17 pm

http://www.realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html

The above address gives RPI for all Division 1 basketball schools except Seton Hall which shows no game played. Since we know they did play a game this is a problem.
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Re: RPI RANKING: will update each week (if I remember)

Postby robinreed » Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:56 am

Men's Basketball - Big East (2014-2015)

Conf. RPI Rank: 5 Conf. SOS Rank: 15

Only games against Division I opponents are counted.
Teams that made the tournament are in bold
This page updates daily.
Last updated - Fri Nov 21 12:07:05 PST 2014
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RPI Rk Big East Conf All RPI SOS Rk SOS
Up 137 From Last WeekUp 137 From Last Week 29 Marquette 0-0 1-1 0.7188 19 0.7917
Up 106 From Last WeekUp 106 From Last Week 40 DePaul 0-0 2-0 0.6875 94 0.5833
Up 97 From Last WeekUp 97 From Last Week 55 Providence 0-0 3-0 0.6389 128 0.5185
Up 18 From Last WeekUp 18 From Last Week 77 Villanova 0-0 3-0 0.5903 162 0.4537
Down 23 From Last WeekDown 23 From Last Week 107 Xavier 0-0 2-0 0.5417 206 0.3889
141 St. John's 0-0 2-0 0.5000 232 0.3333
Down 19 From Last WeekDown 19 From Last Week 134 Georgetown 0-0 2-0 0.5000 229 0.3333
Down 94 From Last WeekDown 94 From Last Week 164 Creighton 0-0 3-0 0.4722 245 0.2963
Down 39 From Last WeekDown 39 From Last Week 197 Butler 0-0 2-0 0.4375 260 0.2500
351 Seton Hall 0-0 0-0 0.0000 351 0.0000

Note: of the over 350 D-1 basketball schools the only one which is not being reported on real time RPI is Seton Hall.

The following RPI ranking includes the 1 Seton Hall game:
2014-15 RPI
RK (RPI) TEAM RPI D1 W-L SOS NCRP NCSS CFRP CFSS 1-25 26-50 51-100 L12 LRPI OFFQ DEFQ ASM
1 (9) Seton Hall .8398 1-0 51 73 52 283 296 0-0 0-0 0-0 1-0 245 1.0 27.4 28.4
2 (26) Marquette .7170 1-1 16 166 16 281 128 0-1 0-0 0-0 1-1 50 10.2 5.9 16.1
3 (57) DePaul .6284 2-0 187 2 182 244 146 0-0 0-0 1-0 2-0 179 14.3 7.7 22.1
4 (130) Providence .5307 3-0 225 32 225 222 280 0-0 0-0 2-0 3-0 213 10.0 22.5 32.6
5 (139) Creighton .5199 3-0 220 71 220 223 75 0-0 0-0 1-0 3-0 248 22.2 4.2 26.3
6 (153) St. John's .4976 2-0 245 13 249 216 307 0-0 0-0 1-0 2-0 204 8.3 19.1 27.4
7 (154) Villanova .4975 3-0 232 58 232 219 101 0-0 0-0 2-0 3-0 212 14.1 14.6 28.8
8 (166) Xavier .4847 2-0 253 52 254 217 342 0-0 0-0 0-0 2-0 220 32.0 7.0 39.0
9 (231) Georgetown .3771 2-0 307 8 290 177 23 0-0 1-0 1-0 2-0 193 17.4 11.8 29.2
10 (258) Butler .3530 2-0 337 93 320 178 184 0-0 0-0 0-0 2-0 208 19.7 21.6 41.3
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Re: RPI RANKING: will update each week (if I remember)

Postby robinreed » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:53 am

FormulaX wrote:Big East is #1 !!!

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... conference

NON-CONFERENCE OVERALL
RANK CONFERENCE W L PCT RPI RANK RPI
1 Big East Conference 21 1 0.9545 0.5983 1 0.5983
2 Atlantic Coast Con 33 5 0.8684 0.5970 2 0.5970
3 Southeastern Conf 24 8 0.7500 0.5837 3 0.5837
5 Big 12 Conference 20 3 0.8696 0.5672 5 0.5672
6 Big Ten Conferenc 30 5 0.8571 0.5601 6 0.5601
7 Patriot League 12 13 0.4800 0.5551 7 0.5551
4 Atlantic 10 Conf 20 8 0.7143 0.5760 4 0.5760
9 Western Athletic 6 13 0.3158 0.5176 9 0.5176
10 Pacific 12 Con 22 5 0.8148 0.5111 10 0.5111
11 American Athletic 14 6 0.7000 0.4980 11 0.4980
12 Big South Conferen 9 10 0.4737 0.4887 12 0.4887
13 Southwestern Athle 2 22 0.0833 0.4797 13 0.4797
14 Colonial Athletic A 10 12 0.4545 0.4771 14 0.4771
15 West Coast Confere 16 5 0.7619 0.4703 15 0.4703
8 Missouri Valley Cone 9 7 0.5625 0.5218 8 0.5218
16 America East Confe 6 14 0.3000 0.4604 16 0.4604
17 Mid American Confe 14 5 0.7368 0.4404 18 0.4404
18 Metro Atlantic Athl 7 13 0.3500 0.4518 17 0.4358
20 Northeast Conferen 4 16 0.2000 0.4240 20 0.4240
21 Mid Eastern Athleti 3 29 0.0938 0.4044 21 0.4044
22 Conference USA 14 10 0.5833 0.4031 22 0.4031
23 Southern Confere 6 13 0.3158 0.4030 23 0.4030
24 Mountain West Co 16 7 0.6957 0.4022 24 0.4022
19 Southland Confere 0 17 0.0000 0.4329 19 0.4329
25 Big Sky Conferen6 17 0.2609 0.3881 25 0.3881
26 Independents 1 2 0.3333 0.3750 26 0.3750
27 Big West Conference 5 12 0.2941 0.3562 27 0.3562
28 Summit League 5 13 0.2778 0.3479 28 0.3479
29 Horizon League 4 14 0.2222 0.3414 29 0.3414
30 Sun Belt Conference 5 10 0.3333 0.3365 30 0.3365
31 Atlantic Sun 5 14 0.2632 0.3212 31 0.3212
32 Ivy League 6 13 0.3158 0.3008 32 0.3008
33 Ohio Valley Conference 4 17 0.1905 0.2462 33 0.2462



This contrasts to the following conference rating on 11.21.14 on teamrankings.com. I will not list any rankings except Big East Real Time RPI in future as there are at least 4 websites who do these rankings and they all differ slightly. For example in the ranking above the Big East is #1 whilst in the ranking below it is 10th. The Patriot league is listed 1st below and 7th above. I expect these sites to become more similar as the season progresses but we will need to wait to see.

Team Rankings at teamrankings.com
Rank Conference Rating Top Team Last
1 Patriot 0.456 Holy Cross (2-0) 5
2 America East 0.392 Vermont (2-1) 7
3 ACC 0.373 Pittsburgh (2-0) 14
4 SWAC 0.365 Alab A&M (0-2) 13
5 CAA 0.365 Northeastrn (2-0) 6
6 WAC 0.354 UMKC (2-1) 1
7 Big 12 0.344 Texas Tech (1-1) 4
8 SEC 0.326 LSU (2-1) 2
9 Big Ten 0.305 Rutgers (1-1) 9
10 Big East 0.288 DePaul (2-0) 3
11 MAAC 0.281 Canisius (2-0) 10
12 Atlantic 10 0.276 VCU (3-0) 23
13 American 0.274 Temple (2-0) 27
14 Southern 0.261 Wofford (2-1) 11
15 Pac-12 0.257 Stanford (3-0) 12
16 Big West 0.255 UC Irvine (2-1) 8
17 Summit 0.232 Denver (1-1) 15
18 Horizon League 0.226 Wright State (2-1) 26
19 Northeast 0.225 Bryant (1-1) 16
20 Ivy 0.221 Cornell (2-2) 17
21 MAC 0.206 Bowling Grn (2-0) 24
22 MEAC 0.201 Maryland ES (1-3) 18
23 CUSA 0.178 Charlotte (3-0) 32
24 Atlantic Sun 0.163 Fla Gulf Cst (3-0) 21
25 MVC 0.152 Indiana St (1-1) 19
26 WCC 0.150 St Marys (3-0) 22
27 Big South 0.127 Gard-Webb (2-1) 20
28 Sun Belt 0.109 Texas State (2-0) 25
29 Big Sky 0.102 E Washingtn (3-0) 28
30 Mountain West 0.100 Air Force (2-1) 31
31 Southland 0.084 Lamar (1-2) 29
32 Ohio Valley 0.061 Jksnville St (0-3) 30
33 Independents -- NJIT (1-2) 33
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Re: RPI RANKING: will update each week (if I remember)

Postby shupirate98 » Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:49 am

I promise you the CBS rankings are right. I spent more than a decade on a message board with the guy who does them before he big-timed us and went to CBS. Say what you want about his bracketology (a little screwy at times) but his RPI formula is accurate. Any other site's numbers I wouldn't trust. Some of them are obviously not even remotely close to being accurate.
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Re: RPI RANKING: will update each week (if I remember)

Postby robinreed » Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:31 pm

Men's Basketball - Big East (2014-2015)

Conf. RPI Rank: 1 Conf. SOS Rank: 14

Only games against Division I opponents are counted.
Teams that made the tournament are in bold
This page updates daily.
Last updated - Sat Nov 22 12:53:43 PST 2014
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RPI Rk Big East Conf All RPI SOS Rk SOS
Up 349 From Last WeekUp 349 From Last Week 2 Seton Hall 0-0 2-0 0.8750 6 0.8333
Up 140 From Last WeekUp 140 From Last Week 26 Marquette 0-0 1-1 0.7188 11 0.7917
Up 101 From Last WeekUp 101 From Last Week 51 Providence 0-0 3-0 0.6528 127 0.5370
Down 2 From Last Week 86 Xavier 0-0 3-0 0.5833 181 0.4444
Up 6 From Last Week 89 Villanova 0-0 3-0 0.5764 189 0.4352
Up 35 From Last WeekUp 35 From Last Week 111 DePaul 0-0 2-0 0.5417 217 0.3889
Down 9 From Last Week 150 St. John's 0-0 2-0 0.5000 250 0.3333
Down 31 From Last WeekDown 31 From Last Week 146 Georgetown 0-0 2-0 0.5000 248 0.3333
Down 103 From Last WeekDown 103 From Last Week 173 Creighton 0-0 3-0 0.4722 267 0.2963
Down 34 From Last WeekDown 34 From Last Week 192 Butler 0-0 2-0 0.4583 274 0.2778

I do not know if all the SHU games have been factored in to the RPI
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Re: RPI RANKING: will update each week (if I remember)

Postby stever20 » Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:12 am

realtime rpi quite frankly is complete junk.

CBS Sports(Jerry Palm) is by far the best one out there. Not even close. Like what was said- his bracketology isn't the best- but his data is top notch.
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Re: RPI RANKING: will update each week (if I remember)

Postby Flyer75 » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:38 am

http://www.udpride.com/images/rpi.htm

Please don't automatically discredit this RPI site just because it's run by UDPride. This is a fabulous RPI site that the NCAA uses (one of three they use I believe). You can see it's up to date with Seton Hall's games also.
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