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Re: USA Predicts . . .

Postby stever20 » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:30 pm

billyjack wrote:Just a side comment, but if Georgetown had beaten DePaul in the BET, then we would've had 5 NCAA bids. So in the same way the BE "got lucky" that PC ran the table, the BE was also equally "unlucky" that DePaul had their improbable win vs the Hoyas. 4 bids was the default number.

That is all. Carry on.


I don't think Georgetown would have been in just with a win vs DePaul. 18-14(which is what the record would have been)- just doesn't get teams in the tourney any more. We would have needed a win vs Creighton to seal the deal.
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Postby SJHooper » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:18 pm

stever20 wrote:
billyjack wrote:Just a side comment, but if Georgetown had beaten DePaul in the BET, then we would've had 5 NCAA bids. So in the same way the BE "got lucky" that PC ran the table, the BE was also equally "unlucky" that DePaul had their improbable win vs the Hoyas. 4 bids was the default number.

That is all. Carry on.


I don't think Georgetown would have been in just with a win vs DePaul. 18-14(which is what the record would have been)- just doesn't get teams in the tourney any more. We would have needed a win vs Creighton to seal the deal.


If I recall correctly, G'Town was either THE last team out or very close to it. I think 18 would have gotten them in.
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Postby stever20 » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:22 pm

SJHooper wrote:
stever20 wrote:
billyjack wrote:Just a side comment, but if Georgetown had beaten DePaul in the BET, then we would've had 5 NCAA bids. So in the same way the BE "got lucky" that PC ran the table, the BE was also equally "unlucky" that DePaul had their improbable win vs the Hoyas. 4 bids was the default number.

That is all. Carry on.


I don't think Georgetown would have been in just with a win vs DePaul. 18-14(which is what the record would have been)- just doesn't get teams in the tourney any more. We would have needed a win vs Creighton to seal the deal.


If I recall correctly, G'Town was either THE last team out or very close to it. I think 18 would have gotten them in.

They were one of the last 4- but a win vs DePaul(11-21) last year doesn't help them much at all. 18-14 just hasn't gotten in at all recent years.

Also, if Georgetown had gotten in, very possible the committee would have taken Xavier out.
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Postby hoyahooligan » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:15 pm

SJHooper wrote:
stever20 wrote:
billyjack wrote:Just a side comment, but if Georgetown had beaten DePaul in the BET, then we would've had 5 NCAA bids. So in the same way the BE "got lucky" that PC ran the table, the BE was also equally "unlucky" that DePaul had their improbable win vs the Hoyas. 4 bids was the default number.

That is all. Carry on.


I don't think Georgetown would have been in just with a win vs DePaul. 18-14(which is what the record would have been)- just doesn't get teams in the tourney any more. We would have needed a win vs Creighton to seal the deal.


If I recall correctly, G'Town was either THE last team out or very close to it. I think 18 would have gotten them in.


IF CBS is to be believed they said Georgetown was the last team out and that was with the Depaul loss, so you'd think we probably sneak in with the win. I also would have liked our chances against Creighton if we had advanced.
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Postby HoosierPal » Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:44 am

You are forgetting SMU. They were considered by most to be the first one left out. Bracket Matrix 2014 had St. John's higher on the list than Georgetown.
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Postby stever20 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:16 am

Georgetown was in the group of 4 that just missed- with SMU, St John's, and frankly I don't remember who the other team was. While yes, not losing to DePaul would have helped, end of the day, record has mattered more and more to the committee. It's not like before where you saw 18-14 type teams making the tournament fairly regularly.

Heck, you could say that we came one SMU win over Houston in the AAC tourney from having Xavier being the last team in.

There is no guarantee at all that if Georgetown had gotten in that Xavier would still have gotten in. If Georgetown/SMU both win, very possible Xavier is out.
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Postby DudeAnon » Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:06 pm

We sent 40% of the conference in our first year (with only 1 flagship program making the dance.) Thats not bad in my book.
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Postby gosports1 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:16 pm

The experts claim PC only got in becasue they won championship ( i think they should have gotten in even if they lost, by i may be a homer) My guess is, if PC lost , gtown would have taken their place as BE team #4
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Postby Omaha1 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:27 pm

gosports1 wrote:The experts claim PC only got in becasue they won championship ( i think they should have gotten in even if they lost, by i may be a homer) My guess is, if PC lost , gtown would have taken their place as BE team #4

As I recall, Bruce Rasmussen (Creighton AD) on the committee said PC would have missed the field if they didn't win the BET. After losing to Georgetown in the first round, no way the Hoyas were in.
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Postby HoosierPal » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:59 pm

stever20 wrote:Georgetown was in the group of 4 that just missed- with SMU, St John's, and frankly I don't remember who the other team was. While yes, not losing to DePaul would have helped, end of the day, record has mattered more and more to the committee. It's not like before where you saw 18-14 type teams making the tournament fairly regularly.

Heck, you could say that we came one SMU win over Houston in the AAC tourney from having Xavier being the last team in.

There is no guarantee at all that if Georgetown had gotten in that Xavier would still have gotten in. If Georgetown/SMU both win, very possible Xavier is out.


I think Southern Miss was in that group of 'first out'.
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