Big East schedule release?

[redmen9194]

I did just mean network TV and not cable. It is absolutely a bigger deal. Fox and CBS reach 16 million more households than ESPN and just being on network TV gives the game a bit more importance.

[MUPanther]

NYE Schedule- Central Standard Time
11:00 p.m.- @StJohnsBBall at @SetonHallMBB
1:30 p.m.- @ButlerMBB at @NovaMBB
4:00 p.m.- @MarquetteMBB at @DePaulAthletics
6:30 p.m. #BIGEAST Championship Rematch @BluejayMBB at @PCAthletics
9:00 p.m. @GeorgetownHoops at @XUAthletics.

Very glad to see this again. Is anyone hosting again that did last year? I'd hope this would rotate pretty frequently so no team played home or road in consecutive years.

Xavier and Providence repeat as hosts

St. John's and Marquette repeat being on the road

Marquette won't be hosting on NYE, as the Bradley Center hosts two shows every year on of the Harlem Globetrotters.

[DudeAnon]

stever, you are obviously a pretty smart dude, but a lot of times you remind me of this guy

[MUPanther]

Yeah, 9 national Fox tv broadcasts, that is huge. Not sure many conferences get that many games on national tv.

I think that's a pretty normal number. I know Big Ten and ACC get at least that many. Not as sure about Big 12 or Pac 12.

The Big East will have at least ten controlled games on either CBS or FOX, which is more than the ACC, SEC, American or Big 12.

[GumbyDamnit!]

And there are a few on CBS as well. Right now St. John's has one CBS, two Fox, and two more that might be on Fox. How many other universities outside the Big East are getting that many national network games?

I don't know. UConn has 2 CBS, 1 ESPN Saturday night where Gameday is at, and a ESPN game vs Duke on 12/18. And 4 more that could be on ESPN.

Heck Duke has 2 CBS, 1 Fox, and 11 on ESPN. And I'm sure there are others.

National Network just isn't as meaningful as it was 30 years ago.

You are mostly right with one exception Stever. Fox also airs something called the NFL which unquestionably grabs the most TV sets for 8 hours every Sunday afternoon during NCAA hoops season. I would imagine that Fox will do their best to cross-promote. I look forward--while watching my Eagles on Sundays--to seeing the promotion of V'nova/BE hoops several times during each game. They do not have any other product for NCAA hoops unlike ESPN with the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, AAC, etc. I'd rather have 100% promotion at Fox than 10% promotion at ESPN. That counts for something more than just a station outlet for games. A national audience will be bombarded with images of Pinkston, DSR, Henton, Harrison, Stainbrook, Garrett, Archidiacono, etc. every Sunday.

Just keep up your glass-half-empty, devil's-advocate-routine Stever. This alliance with Fox is a growing relationship and every year we're going to see it pay off more and more. The BE is not like the P5 in one obvious way: football. We are touting ourselves as different so why not have a media partner that thinks differently (than the standard bearer, ESPN) as well?

[hoyahooligan]

ACC will have 7 games on CBS this year, + Duke's game on Fox vs. St. John's so a total of 8. The BE will have 9 games on fox + 2 on CBS so 11 total.

[MUPanther]

There is a huge difference in Milwaukee. As Milwaukee is the #1 city in the US, as 25% don't have pay TV. The national average is 10%

[stever20]

And there are a few on CBS as well. Right now St. John's has one CBS, two Fox, and two more that might be on Fox. How many other universities outside the Big East are getting that many national network games?

I don't know. UConn has 2 CBS, 1 ESPN Saturday night where Gameday is at, and a ESPN game vs Duke on 12/18. And 4 more that could be on ESPN.

Heck Duke has 2 CBS, 1 Fox, and 11 on ESPN. And I'm sure there are others.

National Network just isn't as meaningful as it was 30 years ago.

You are mostly right with one exception Stever. Fox also airs something called the NFL which unquestionably grabs the most TV sets for 8 hours every Sunday afternoon during NCAA hoops season. I would imagine that Fox will do their best to cross-promote. I look forward--while watching my Eagles on Sundays--to seeing the promotion of V'nova/BE hoops several times during each game. They do not have any other product for NCAA hoops unlike ESPN with the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, AAC, etc. I'd rather have 100% promotion at Fox than 10% promotion at ESPN. That counts for something more than just a station outlet for games. A national audience will be bombarded with images of Pinkston, DSR, Henton, Harrison, Stainbrook, Garrett, Archidiacono, etc. every Sunday.

Just keep up your glass-half-empty, devil's-advocate-routine Stever. This alliance with Fox is a growing relationship and every year we're going to see it pay off more and more. The BE is not like the P5 in one obvious way: football. We are touting ourselves as different so why not have a media partner that thinks differently (than the standard bearer, ESPN) as well?

CBS and ESPN air the NFL as well. I would say as well- every other week, fox is only airing 4 hours of NFL. At least last year- we didn't see much cross-promotion whatsoever. For one- Fox sells whole season advertisting packages and what network stuff they advertise is for the entertainment division. Also, will be having in January a lot of NASCAR advertising getting set for Daytona.

Also just looking- 1 of the Fox broadcast is at 4:30 on 12/6- college football championship Saturday- going up against the SEC Title game. That's a throw away timeslot if there ever was one.
the majority of the fox games are after football season.... Also, Fox does have the Pac 12, so they do have other product for NCAA hoops. What advertising I saw last year from Fox was just as much if not more Pac 12 than it was Big East.

[redmen9194]

There was plenty of cross-promotion last season on Fox. They had two commercials for a St. John's game during the Super Bowl. So when FS1 debuted with 85 million households, people complained because ESPN was in 97 million. Now we will have games with exposure in 123 million households, If 16 million more than ESPN, but that's no big deal. It's a big deal.

[Xudash]

And there are a few on CBS as well. Right now St. John's has one CBS, two Fox, and two more that might be on Fox. How many other universities outside the Big East are getting that many national network games?

I don't know. UConn has 2 CBS, 1 ESPN Saturday night where Gameday is at, and a ESPN game vs Duke on 12/18. And 4 more that could be on ESPN.

Heck Duke has 2 CBS, 1 Fox, and 11 on ESPN. And I'm sure there are others.

National Network just isn't as meaningful as it was 30 years ago.

You are mostly right with one exception Stever. Fox also airs something called the NFL which unquestionably grabs the most TV sets for 8 hours every Sunday afternoon during NCAA hoops season. I would imagine that Fox will do their best to cross-promote. I look forward--while watching my Eagles on Sundays--to seeing the promotion of V'nova/BE hoops several times during each game. They do not have any other product for NCAA hoops unlike ESPN with the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, AAC, etc. I'd rather have 100% promotion at Fox than 10% promotion at ESPN. That counts for something more than just a station outlet for games. A national audience will be bombarded with images of Pinkston, DSR, Henton, Harrison, Stainbrook, Garrett, Archidiacono, etc. every Sunday.

Just keep up your glass-half-empty, devil's-advocate-routine Stever. This alliance with Fox is a growing relationship and every year we're going to see it pay off more and more. The BE is not like the P5 in one obvious way: football. We are touting ourselves as different so why not have a media partner that thinks differently (than the standard bearer, ESPN) as well?

It's that "vision" thing, isn't it? You either have it (some) or you don't.

It's like the carriage makers who made small fortunes - at the time - making horse drawn carriages. They scoffed at the notion of the horseless carriage in the first decade of the 20th Century.

At that time, they could only see nice wooden carriages with fine leather seats pulled by magnificent animals. They otherwise witnessed this new technology that was prone to mechanical failures and subject to road systems that made no sense for them. They couldn't see where all that was headed.

Levitt's famous HBR article about Marketing Myopia offered the same basic point, wherein he used the example of the train industry defining themselves as train companies and not transportation companies as commercial aviation began to take off.

Hell, as recently as the early 80's, cell phones were scoffed at as a novelty. How did that work out?

With all that noted, except for the train industry, the other two examples were essentially new technologies at the time. In our case, we have a cash-rich, global media goliath cranking this thing up.

As I SEE it, I like our chances.