Power 5 "autonomy" vote discussion

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Re: Power 5 "autonomy" vote discussion

Postby muskienick » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:56 am

Bluejay wrote:If BYU feels compelled to go anywhere after the recent developments, look for them to jump to the Big 12, not the BE. Taking it one step further, if BYU decides to join the Big 12, look for the Big 12 to poach a partner from the AAC (Cincy?) to join at the same time.


Assuming BYU does join the Big 12 (and that is a big assumption), I have my doubts that Cincinnati would be the first choice as BYU's new-member-partner. There are facility reasons that could prevent it (UC's football stadium is not up to Big 12 standards in many ways and its basketball arena has been begging for upgrades for a decade or more. In addition to that, the Bearcats would be another member falling outside the natural footprint of the Conference).

Memphis, on the other hand, has very good football and basketball facilities, its basketball program has been nationally prominent for over a decade, and it would fit quite well geographically with the majority of the current members. One would also have to assume that its membership in the Big 12 would be a huge boost to its football recruiting success and a return from mediocrity (at best) for its gridiron program.
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Postby HoosierPal » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:38 pm

DudeAnon wrote:People are overreacting. Any competitive school will be able to do this stipend easily.

Simply put, you could deduct the stipends from the ADs and highest coach's budgets. The benefit of recruiting outweighs the cost of lower pay for coaches and other staff.

That is just one theoretical. But point being, for most in A-10 and AAC, the benefit outweighs the cost.


This additional cost will be paid for through increased ticket prices. You and I will foot the bill, not in this year's ticket prices as they have already been set, but next year and beyond. There will be on deduction from the AD's and highest coach's budgets. Staff salaries won't be lowered. Open your wallet guys, the tax man is coming, again.
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Re: Power 5 "autonomy" vote discussion

Postby handdownmandown » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:16 pm

Lets just send UConn and UC to the ACC and Memphis and BYU to the Big 12; the Big XII gets something to work with in football, while the ACC gets its hoops programs while not caring about their football shortcomings.

Then the AAC is finished and we can stop all that nonsense. Plus Wichiturd, with no way out as Gonzaga joins the Mountain West, can spend the next decade wailing about the unfairness of it all, which to me would be a terrific bonus.
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Re: Power 5 "autonomy" vote discussion

Postby DudeAnon » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:39 pm

HoosierPal wrote:
DudeAnon wrote:People are overreacting. Any competitive school will be able to do this stipend easily.

Simply put, you could deduct the stipends from the ADs and highest coach's budgets. The benefit of recruiting outweighs the cost of lower pay for coaches and other staff.

That is just one theoretical. But point being, for most in A-10 and AAC, the benefit outweighs the cost.


This additional cost will be paid for through increased ticket prices. You and I will foot the bill, not in this year's ticket prices as they have already been set, but next year and beyond. There will be on deduction from the AD's and highest coach's budgets. Staff salaries won't be lowered. Open your wallet guys, the tax man is coming, again.


If thats the case so be it. I know its rarer nowadays, but I am a firm believer in capitalism.

In an anecdote, I don't think ticket prices would get raised. They already price the tickets to make as much money as they can (as any good operation would.) Imagine it in reverse; if they capped head coach salaries would they would lower prices on tickets?
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Re: Power 5 "autonomy" vote discussion

Postby stever20 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:05 am

handdownmandown wrote:Lets just send UConn and UC to the ACC and Memphis and BYU to the Big 12; the Big XII gets something to work with in football, while the ACC gets its hoops programs while not caring about their football shortcomings.

Then the AAC is finished and we can stop all that nonsense. Plus Wichiturd, with no way out as Gonzaga joins the Mountain West, can spend the next decade wailing about the unfairness of it all, which to me would be a terrific bonus.


The AAC isn't going anywhere. The amount of pure hatred towards the AAC is just remarkable on here by some folks. Just hoping they fail. Why?
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Re: Power 5 "autonomy" vote discussion

Postby HoosierPal » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:45 am

stever20 wrote:
handdownmandown wrote:Lets just send UConn and UC to the ACC and Memphis and BYU to the Big 12; the Big XII gets something to work with in football, while the ACC gets its hoops programs while not caring about their football shortcomings.

Then the AAC is finished and we can stop all that nonsense. Plus Wichiturd, with no way out as Gonzaga joins the Mountain West, can spend the next decade wailing about the unfairness of it all, which to me would be a terrific bonus.


The AAC isn't going anywhere. The amount of pure hatred towards the AAC is just remarkable on here by some folks. Just hoping they fail. Why?


I agree with you Stever. Seems like a lot of jealousy towards the success the AAC had last year. They are and will continue to be a strong conference. Memphis is loaded for hoops this season and will be a contender to follow UConn's footsteps.
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Re: Power 5 "autonomy" vote discussion

Postby robinreed » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:55 am

HoosierPal wrote:
stever20 wrote:
handdownmandown wrote:Lets just send UConn and UC to the ACC and Memphis and BYU to the Big 12; the Big XII gets something to work with in football, while the ACC gets its hoops programs while not caring about their football shortcomings.

Then the AAC is finished and we can stop all that nonsense. Plus Wichiturd, with no way out as Gonzaga joins the Mountain West, can spend the next decade wailing about the unfairness of it all, which to me would be a terrific bonus.


The AAC isn't going anywhere. The amount of pure hatred towards the AAC is just remarkable on here by some folks. Just hoping they fail. Why?


I agree with you Stever. Seems like a lot of jealousy towards the success the AAC had last year. They are and will continue to be a strong conference. Memphis is loaded for hoops this season and will be a contender to follow UConn's footsteps.


I have also detected jealousy on this board concerning the AAC and their success. However we should point out there is more than a little animosity on the AAC board directed towards the Big East. I check the AAC and ACC boards about once a week and on the AAC board I have often seen derogatory comments about the BE and especially our Fox Sports contract. That may also be jealousy. In short neither side is clean in this mud fight. We BOTH need to grow up. :!:
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Re: Power 5 "autonomy" vote discussion

Postby Barley » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:19 am

stever20 wrote:
handdownmandown wrote:Lets just send UConn and UC to the ACC and Memphis and BYU to the Big 12; the Big XII gets something to work with in football, while the ACC gets its hoops programs while not caring about their football shortcomings.

Then the AAC is finished and we can stop all that nonsense. Plus Wichiturd, with no way out as Gonzaga joins the Mountain West, can spend the next decade wailing about the unfairness of it all, which to me would be a terrific bonus.


The AAC isn't going anywhere. The amount of pure hatred towards the AAC is just remarkable on here by some folks. Just hoping they fail. Why?

Maybe it's not hatred of the AAC, per se, but of their fans?
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Re: Power 5 "autonomy" vote discussion

Postby DudeAnon » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:53 am

I don't think anyone here really dislike the AAC, its just that the AAC is not long for this world. All of their power programs (which carry the rest of the conference more-so than any other conference) are doing everything they can to get out. That is not the sign of a healthy future.
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Re: Power 5 "autonomy" vote discussion

Postby handdownmandown » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:22 am

I'm not jealous of anything AAC; I don't see them as a threat, but as a dead man walking. My point was, this gets them to where they are headed anyway, and the nonsense to which I was referring has to do with their trolls and their posts.
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