My Private/Parochial Conference Wish

The home for Big East hoops

Re: My Private/Parochial Conference Wish

Postby murphy » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:21 pm

Not really sure why the conversation here includes UD.

UD has not interest in joing the big east, I can tell you that. They were not really interested last fall, and after the elite 8 run they really dont want to be asked because then they will have to answer to crititcs if they turn them down. UD does not want to be associated with the Fox network and their political leanings, and terrible product offerings. (as UD presidnt Daniel Curran)
murphy
 
Posts: 76
Joined: Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:19 pm

Re: My Private/Parochial Conference Wish

Sponsor

Sponsor
 

Re: My Private/Parochial Conference Wish

Postby Bluejay » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:25 pm

murphy wrote:Not really sure why the conversation here includes UD.

UD has not interest in joing the big east, I can tell you that. They were not really interested last fall, and after the elite 8 run they really dont want to be asked because then they will have to answer to crititcs if they turn them down. UD does not want to be associated with the Fox network and their political leanings, and terrible product offerings. (as UD presidnt Daniel Curran)


Riiiiiiiiight.

You are visiting this board because you DON'T want to be a member. Makes sense.
User avatar
Bluejay
 
Posts: 765
Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:34 pm

Re: My Private/Parochial Conference Wish

Postby DudeAnon » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:32 pm

murphy wrote:Not really sure why the conversation here includes UD.

UD has not interest in joing the big east, I can tell you that. They were not really interested last fall, and after the elite 8 run they really dont want to be asked because then they will have to answer to crititcs if they turn them down. UD does not want to be associated with the Fox network and their political leanings, and terrible product offerings. (as UD presidnt Daniel Curran)


Image
Xavier

2018 Big East Champs
User avatar
DudeAnon
 
Posts: 3012
Joined: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:52 pm

Re: My Private/Parochial Conference Wish

Postby Noonzy » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:36 pm

FormulaX wrote:
hoyahooligan wrote:
DudeAnon wrote:Can someone explain to me why they wouldn't expand? I can see only motivating purposes to do so.

Positives
Fox
1. More markets
2. More games for FS1 and FS2

BE
1. More markets
2. Higher chance for NCAA bids (last year middle was too large imo)
3. TV Revenue unaffected (I believe Fox would increase money per school)

Negatives
Fox
1. Have to pay more money

Fox and BE
1. Diluted product?

Am I missing anything?



Negatives diluting the product, new additions likely do not deliver their markets, associates us with mid majors unless we're taking programs that were in major conferences, No guarantee fox increases what it's paying to keep revenue unaffected, more games for fox, but likely more bad games that get pushed to FS2.

Basically the major problem with expanding is there are no good candidates. if there were then it would be a no brainer. But the candidates to expand do not exist. Wait until more moves from the other conferences. If the AAC gets raided we should pick up some of their best that get left behind. I don't care about the whole we all need to be small private schools. I think that schools that are basketball first will fit fine even if they have football. I'd rather grab UConn, or Memphis if they get left behind again than Dayton or St. Louis.

+1


+2
Providence College
Noonzy
 
Posts: 217
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:31 pm

Re: My Private/Parochial Conference Wish

Postby TheHall » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:42 pm

Noonzy wrote:
FormulaX wrote:
hoyahooligan wrote:
Negatives diluting the product, new additions likely do not deliver their markets, associates us with mid majors unless we're taking programs that were in major conferences, No guarantee fox increases what it's paying to keep revenue unaffected, more games for fox, but likely more bad games that get pushed to FS2.

Basically the major problem with expanding is there are no good candidates. if there were then it would be a no brainer. But the candidates to expand do not exist. Wait until more moves from the other conferences. If the AAC gets raided we should pick up some of their best that get left behind. I don't care about the whole we all need to be small private schools. I think that schools that are basketball first will fit fine even if they have football. I'd rather grab UConn, or Memphis if they get left behind again than Dayton or St. Louis.

+1


+2

+3....Mentioning Uconn or Memphis, let alone a current P5 member for BE expansion used to cause major diaper rash here...What a difference a few months make.
User avatar
TheHall
 
Posts: 2147
Joined: Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:35 pm

Re: My Private/Parochial Conference Wish

Postby BillikensWin » Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:30 pm

I don't agree with everything Edrick says, but he's right on expansion. It's not happening.

10 teams is pretty much the perfect basketball schedule.
Saint Louis University: Proud Members of the Big Atlantic Valley Conference
BillikensWin
 
Posts: 612
Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:22 pm

Re: My Private/Parochial Conference Wish

Postby gosports1 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:07 pm

zero chance Uconn and Memphis are coming unless they drop football
Last edited by gosports1 on Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
gosports1
 
Posts: 701
Joined: Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:48 pm

Re: My Private/Parochial Conference Wish

Postby BillikensWin » Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:03 pm

gosports1 wrote:zero chance Uconn and Memphis arent coming unless they drop football


I think the overall consensus is that that is the same chance the Big East expands, period.
Saint Louis University: Proud Members of the Big Atlantic Valley Conference
BillikensWin
 
Posts: 612
Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:22 pm

Re: My Private/Parochial Conference Wish

Postby BEwannabe » Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:41 pm

BillikensWin wrote:
gosports1 wrote:zero chance Uconn and Memphis arent coming unless they drop football


I think the overall consensus is that that is the same chance the Big East expands, period.


It's not the same chance, there is zero chance UCONN or Memphis ever have any interest in the Big East and almost guaranteed 100% the Big East expands. For starters, UCONN and Memphis aren't giving up football and that's where it starts and ends. There will be no attractive scenario for them to join basketball only private schools in anything, to do so would admit defeat.
BEwannabe
 
Posts: 384
Joined: Sat May 11, 2013 11:31 am

Re: My Private/Parochial Conference Wish

Postby DudeAnon » Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:54 pm

BEwannabe wrote:
BillikensWin wrote:
gosports1 wrote:zero chance Uconn and Memphis arent coming unless they drop football


I think the overall consensus is that that is the same chance the Big East expands, period.


It's not the same chance, there is zero chance UCONN or Memphis ever have any interest in the Big East and almost guaranteed 100% the Big East expands. For starters, UCONN and Memphis aren't giving up football and that's where it starts and ends. There will be no attractive scenario for them to join basketball only private schools in anything, to do so would admit defeat.


Where you been BEwannabe, we have missed your cheery disposition. Anyway, its not even about UCONN or Memphis (never say never btw) its about any candidate which would maintain or raise the status of the league.
Xavier

2018 Big East Champs
User avatar
DudeAnon
 
Posts: 3012
Joined: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:52 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Big East basketball message board

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Google [Bot] and 39 guests