CBS Conference Catchup: Big East

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What does Georgetown have returning/coming in?

Honestly don't know much about the Hoyas for 14-15.

[hoyahooligan]

What does Georgetown have returning/coming in?

Honestly don't know much about the Hoyas for 14-15.

Returning:

4* DSR Jr (you know about him) potential BE POY, Jabril Trawick Sr( tough physical defender, ever improving offensive game), 4* Mikael Hopkins Sr (Good defender hit or miss on offense), 5*Josh Smith 5th yr Sr (Has lost weight and should be eligible all year), Aaron Bowen 5th yr Sr (athletic wing), 4* Reggie Cameron So (Good 3pt shooting Wing Forward), Bradley Hayes ( 7 footer showed some flashes last year)

In coming:

Isaac Copeland # 28 RSCI (16th ESPN, 23rd Rivals potential 1 and done) Athletic PF
Paul White #51 RSCI (34th ESPN) Point Forward
LJ Peak #62 RSCI (31st ESPN, Jordan all american game) Athletic SG/SF
Tre Campbell Pass first PG #88 on scout
Trey Mourning Face up PF son of Alonzo Mourning.

This was a top 10 recruiting class. At the very least Copeland, White, and Peak are college ready and potential NBA players some sooner than others. So add that to the experience we have coming back and the Hoyas are back in a big way.

[SJHooper]

Seton Hall still has a ton of question marks. Will IW even live up to his huge expectations? It's more likely that they were overhyped as recruits. The only seemingly sure things are top 5 kids nationally. IW was 25 or 30 I think...there's no guarantee. They are bringing in freshmen...SJ had a ton of the top freshmen in 2012 and look how that worked out. Seton Hall is far from a contender until they prove it. Also, you give PC way too much credit. Cotton took the team on his back scoring 30 each game. They have no one else like that.

Great logic: My program has underachieved since 2012 therefore your program is going to be just as inept. Underachieving isn't necessarily contagious within a conference. SJHooper your pathetic attempts at trying to belittle SHU's future is similar to the story about the boy trying to plug the damn with his fingers & toes, your argument is falling apart. Seton Hall is on the rise whether you can admit it or not. However it is quite enjoyable watching all the haters from SJU such as yourself continue to have these public tantrums.

I'm just being honest. Even at their absolute peak like 4 years ago when they were ranked and had Theodore, SHU never came onto the national scene. There were no sexy major wins.

[billyjack]

Seton Hall still has a ton of question marks. Will IW even live up to his huge expectations? It's more likely that they were overhyped as recruits. The only seemingly sure things are top 5 kids nationally. IW was 25 or 30 I think...there's no guarantee. They are bringing in freshmen...SJ had a ton of the top freshmen in 2012 and look how that worked out. Seton Hall is far from a contender until they prove it. Also, you give PC way too much credit. Cotton took the team on his back scoring 30 each game. They have no one else like that.

Great logic: My program has underachieved since 2012 therefore your program is going to be just as inept. Underachieving isn't necessarily contagious within a conference. SJHooper your pathetic attempts at trying to belittle SHU's future is similar to the story about the boy trying to plug the damn with his fingers & toes, your argument is falling apart. Seton Hall is on the rise whether you can admit it or not. However it is quite enjoyable watching all the haters from SJU such as yourself continue to have these public tantrums.

I'm just being honest. Even at their absolute peak like 4 years ago when they were ranked and had Theodore, SHU never came onto the national scene. There were no sexy major wins.

Not that I want to dive into this, but the Hall won by like 30 at the Carrier Dome.

[Irishdawg]

The real key to Seton Hall's talent is how well is meshes with the other pieces (Sina, Gibbs, Mobley) as well as each other. Not the same situation, but even with the most talented players from high school, Kentucky, at least in its first year always takes awhile to get going. No matter how talented the pieces are, there's a lot to adjust to for a freshman, and you combine that with learning the new team's system and how his teammates work within it? It can be tough.

I think if Seton Hall's entire class (especially Whitehead) stick around for multiple years, there's a much higher probability for overall success. I do think that by the end of this coming season that Seton Hall could be a team that is very dangerous, but with all the young talent coming into the Big East this year, I think you could possibly say that about a lot of programs in the conference.

Long-term, I do wonder somewhat about the viability of hiring assistants based on their relationships with one or two prospects, but if Willard can turn it into something to where he's not having to turn over guys on his staff every couple of years, then I think this risk can be worth it.

[TheHall]

The real key to Seton Hall's talent is how well is meshes with the other pieces (Sina, Gibbs, Mobley) as well as each other. Not the same situation, but even with the most talented players from high school, Kentucky, at least in its first year always takes awhile to get going. No matter how talented the pieces are, there's a lot to adjust to for a freshman, and you combine that with learning the new team's system and how his teammates work within it? It can be tough.

I think if Seton Hall's entire class (especially Whitehead) stick around for multiple years, there's a much higher probability for overall success. I do think that by the end of this coming season that Seton Hall could be a team that is very dangerous, but with all the young talent coming into the Big East this year, I think you could possibly say that about a lot of programs in the conference.

Long-term, I do wonder somewhat about the viability of hiring assistants based on their relationships with one or two prospects, but if Willard can turn it into something to where he's not having to turn over guys on his staff every couple of years, then I think this risk can be worth it.

If an assistant coach isn't helping on the recruiting front over time they usually get let go. That's just standard business for any school. That's exactly what happened at SJU a few years ago when they let go former Rice hs coach Moe Hicks (IIRC) because he didn't produce recruits. So obviously Morton will have to provide future value to the program as well. Besides right now IW is out there recruiting players for the program, so to say hiring the coach only results in his 2 players is inaccurate. The hire has the potential to impact 2015 & 2016. IW's commitment alone is a recruiting asset for Seton Hall this season and beyond.

I'm amazed at how many non-SHU fans are so concerned about the long term viability of a school based on ASSISTANT COACHING moves. We SHU fans know our program desperately needs short term success to create momentum and that's exactly what's starting to happen

[NJRedman]

Seton Hall still has a ton of question marks. Will IW even live up to his huge expectations? It's more likely that they were overhyped as recruits. The only seemingly sure things are top 5 kids nationally. IW was 25 or 30 I think...there's no guarantee. They are bringing in freshmen...SJ had a ton of the top freshmen in 2012 and look how that worked out. Seton Hall is far from a contender until they prove it. Also, you give PC way too much credit. Cotton took the team on his back scoring 30 each game. They have no one else like that.

Great logic: My program has underachieved since 2012 therefore your program is going to be just as inept. Underachieving isn't necessarily contagious within a conference. SJHooper your pathetic attempts at trying to belittle SHU's future is similar to the story about the boy trying to plug the damn with his fingers & toes, your argument is falling apart. Seton Hall is on the rise whether you can admit it or not. However it is quite enjoyable watching all the haters from SJU such as yourself continue to have these public tantrums.

The logic is you haven't done anything yet, so acting like you are now the class of the league or at least the top half of the league is a joke. Your program already is inept and needs to prove on the court that it no longer is inept. Your head coach was about to be fired until he pulled some recruits out of his ass using possibly shady tactics. If he was such a good recruiter why wasn't he getting this level of player prior to this recruiting cycle? Only now when he is about to be fired?

Anywho, you can continue to have these public tantrums anytime anyone questions Seton Hall. We're still going to beat you and you're still going to be the scrubs of the league. Hey at least you'll be above DePaul!

[TheHall]

The logic is you haven't done anything yet, so acting like you are now the class of the league or at least the top half of the league is a joke. Your program already is inept and needs to prove on the court that it no longer is inept. Your head coach was about to be fired until he pulled some recruits out of his ass using possibly shady tactics. If he was such a good recruiter why wasn't he getting this level of player prior to this recruiting cycle? Only now when he is about to be fired?

Anywho, you can continue to have these public tantrums anytime anyone questions Seton Hall. We're still going to beat you and you're still going to be the scrubs of the league. Hey at least you'll be above DePaul!

If you had a program you were proud of I'm sure you wouldn't be so annoyed by what's going on in Jersey, but you don't. Anyway who cares what SJU fans think about Seton Hall lol.

[NJRedman]

The logic is you haven't done anything yet, so acting like you are now the class of the league or at least the top half of the league is a joke. Your program already is inept and needs to prove on the court that it no longer is inept. Your head coach was about to be fired until he pulled some recruits out of his ass using possibly shady tactics. If he was such a good recruiter why wasn't he getting this level of player prior to this recruiting cycle? Only now when he is about to be fired?

Anywho, you can continue to have these public tantrums anytime anyone questions Seton Hall. We're still going to beat you and you're still going to be the scrubs of the league. Hey at least you'll be above DePaul!

If you had a program you were proud of I'm sure you wouldn't be so annoyed by what's going on in Jersey, but you don't. Anyway who cares what SJU fans think about Seton Hall lol.

If you had a school that wasn't the Websters definition of useless you wouldn't be so douchy. Seriously, you guys are lucky you got in when you did. You could be in the A-10 right now begging to get in the Big East.

Seton Hall sponsors 6...SIX mens sports and 8 womens sports. They finish close to last place in almost every sport every year. Useless in every possible aspect.

[TheHall]

If you had a school that wasn't the Websters definition of useless you wouldn't be so douchy. Seriously, you guys are lucky you got in when you did. You could be in the A-10 right now begging to get in the Big East.

Seton Hall sponsors 6...SIX mens sports and 8 womens sports. They finish close to last place in almost every sport every year. Useless in every possible aspect.

Worst kept secret here at HLOH is that you SJU fans are the worst lot hands down. Great job reaffirming that status loser.