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Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

Postby Omaha1 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:37 pm

stever20 wrote:one point on attendance that we may see- with every game on FS1- will especially the OOC games suffer- as fans now know they can watch on TV. I'd think especially for the dreg OOC games- this could be a big factor. Watch for 2 hours instead of the 4+ hours you have to invest to go to a game. Just something that bares watching in the next few years....

Hasn't impacted Creighton's attendance either last year or even when we were playing crappy Valley teams.
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Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

Postby stever20 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:50 pm

Omaha1 wrote:
stever20 wrote:one point on attendance that we may see- with every game on FS1- will especially the OOC games suffer- as fans now know they can watch on TV. I'd think especially for the dreg OOC games- this could be a big factor. Watch for 2 hours instead of the 4+ hours you have to invest to go to a game. Just something that bares watching in the next few years....

Hasn't impacted Creighton's attendance either last year or even when we were playing crappy Valley teams.

wouldn't have been a factor 2 years ago because not as much TV- talking about the new FS1 impact....

Also, having best player in your schools history would lessen that impact. This upcoming year would be bigger I think. Also, had 2 games where you drew less than 17k OOC that could have been a factor. Yes, the dreg OOC games(UMKC and Arkansas Pine Bluff).
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Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

Postby hoyahooligan » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:55 pm

stever20 wrote:one point on attendance that we may see- with every game on FS1- will especially the OOC games suffer- as fans now know they can watch on TV. I'd think especially for the dreg OOC games- this could be a big factor. Watch for 2 hours instead of the 4+ hours you have to invest to go to a game. Just something that bares watching in the next few years....


Meh I mean all of Georgetown games have been on TV for years even if it was MASN. But yes I could see for instance a Seton Hall fan watching a crappy OOC game on TV instead of going to a game now that they have the option to see it on TV that they didn't have before.
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Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:47 am

Jet915 wrote:
2014 Attendance Avg Per Game (By Conference)

5. Big East 9,711

xavier1994 wrote:
http://fs.ncaa.org/docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/reports/attend/2014.pdf

All Home Games

5. Creighton 17,896
14. Marquette 15,327
42. Xavier 9,890
48. Villanova 8,943
51. Georgetown 8,670
56. Providence 8,347
59. Butler 7,780
66. St. Johns 7,036
80. DePaul 6,363
81. Seton Hall 6,336

Only five Atlantic 10 teams made the NCAA's Top 100 Home Attendance list:

28. Dayton 12,316
54. Saint Louis 8,428
62. VCU 7,741
77. Massachusetts 6,544
86. Richmond 6,102
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Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

Postby stever20 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:56 am

hoyahooligan wrote:
stever20 wrote:one point on attendance that we may see- with every game on FS1- will especially the OOC games suffer- as fans now know they can watch on TV. I'd think especially for the dreg OOC games- this could be a big factor. Watch for 2 hours instead of the 4+ hours you have to invest to go to a game. Just something that bares watching in the next few years....


Meh I mean all of Georgetown games have been on TV for years even if it was MASN. But yes I could see for instance a Seton Hall fan watching a crappy OOC game on TV instead of going to a game now that they have the option to see it on TV that they didn't have before.

think there's a difference between a game on a RSN with mediocre announcers and being on FS1 with more of a national broadcast.

I just know this is an issue more and more with other sports, and wouldn't be shocked if it becomes an issue here as well(especially with the weaker games). Why waste the money and time to go to the game when you can watch it on HD at home with a nice cold one.
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Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

Postby DudeAnon » Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:13 pm

stever20 wrote:
hoyahooligan wrote:
stever20 wrote:one point on attendance that we may see- with every game on FS1- will especially the OOC games suffer- as fans now know they can watch on TV. I'd think especially for the dreg OOC games- this could be a big factor. Watch for 2 hours instead of the 4+ hours you have to invest to go to a game. Just something that bares watching in the next few years....


Meh I mean all of Georgetown games have been on TV for years even if it was MASN. But yes I could see for instance a Seton Hall fan watching a crappy OOC game on TV instead of going to a game now that they have the option to see it on TV that they didn't have before.

think there's a difference between a game on a RSN with mediocre announcers and being on FS1 with more of a national broadcast.

I just know this is an issue more and more with other sports, and wouldn't be shocked if it becomes an issue here as well(especially with the weaker games). Why waste the money and time to go to the game when you can watch it on HD at home with a nice cold one.


No doubt the value proposition becomes stronger for staying home due to FS1 and HD TV's. That being said, I think College attendance will not drop off like other sports.

1) Its not crazy expensive.
2) Its a tradition. People take their kids and eventually their kids buy tickets etc.
3) Rooting for kids and community rather than a team with primadonnas. Although I am generally for "pay for play", there is something to be said about student-athletes making it a different experience. You don't feel like you are cheering for a group of rich prima donnas but rather kids who are now members of your community.
4) Arenas aren't that big. Any school in this conference should be able to get 8,000 plus fans during a good year.
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Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

Postby stever20 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:34 pm

Not saying for the better games or even the middle of the road games. But moreso the absolute dog games that every team has. If those continue to get broadcast(which I have serious doubts by the way- Fox I think wlll push a lot of the dog games off TV)- I think more and more folks will stop going to those and watch on TV. Still have 12-13 games to go to to keep the tradition etc.
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Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

Postby XtoDC » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:45 pm

stever20 wrote:just looking last 3 years....
all games for Georgetown-
2014 8670
2013 10911
2012 11283

conference games only
2014 10336
2013 13177
2012 12993

I think the 8670 is a function largely of a pathetic home schedule. Wright St, Lipscomb, High Point, Colgate, Elon, and FIU. avg of those 6 games was 7261. Yeah, the 2133 for WVU didn't help out at all of course, but even if it was say a 12,000 crowd, the attendance would have been for the year would have still been 9295.

Also I would say that of our top games- most were on weeknights. Marquette, Villanova, Creighton, Providence all on Monday nights. DePaul on New Years Eve(drawing 7823). Our home Saturday games- St John's(on 1/4), Seton Hall, Butler, and Xavier.

Last year 4 home Sat/Sun games- were Louisville, St John's, Rutgers, and Syracuse. avg for those 4 games- 16750.
this year 4 home Sat games- were St John's, Seton Hall, Butler, and Xavier. Avg for those 4 games- 11203
The total gap there is about 5500 per game- 22188 total.
the total gap from 2013 conference games to 2014 cnference games- 25569. So our home schedule and moreso the weekend schedule, was largely responsible for our difference. That and then in OOC play, in 13 we got Tennessee.


The Xavier game this year was at 11:00 AM too if I remember correctly. Not exactly the most appealing time to go to a game.
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