SJHooper wrote:This season I think will be all about Villanova and Georgetown. Nova returns most of their top 10 team last year and adds some good recruits. They will be fine and finish nowhere other than 1st or 2nd. I can see G'Town doing much better than last year. They bring in a ton of new talent and return some very good talent. They started off terribly, but got going at the end of the season. I just can't see G'Town being bad 2 seasons in a row and missing the tourney again.
What scares me is that only Nova and G'Town will be our nationally prominent teams. SJ not making the tournament seems to be a yearly guarantee at this point and always underachieves, Creighton lost everyone, PC lost Cotton and Fortune aka everyone, Marquette lost their top notch coach and lost recruits because of it, Butler lost Stevens last year and looked overwhelmed without him, Seton Hall brings in lots of talent on paper, but will they translate to real success? Rarely do very young teams start competing right away. SJ's class in 2012 is the perfect example...top 10 class, sub .500 record the first year. DePaul is...DePaul. The Mets of the Big East. And Xavier lost their best player to the draft.
I think best case scenario is that G'Town and Nova are in the top 15, Xavier squeaks in the tourney somehow and SJ is on the bubble.
Worst case: only Nova and G'Town are ranked or make tourney.
R to the OB wrote:SJHooper wrote:This season I think will be all about Villanova and Georgetown. Nova returns most of their top 10 team last year and adds some good recruits. They will be fine and finish nowhere other than 1st or 2nd. I can see G'Town doing much better than last year. They bring in a ton of new talent and return some very good talent. They started off terribly, but got going at the end of the season. I just can't see G'Town being bad 2 seasons in a row and missing the tourney again.
What scares me is that only Nova and G'Town will be our nationally prominent teams. SJ not making the tournament seems to be a yearly guarantee at this point and always underachieves, Creighton lost everyone, PC lost Cotton and Fortune aka everyone, Marquette lost their top notch coach and lost recruits because of it, Butler lost Stevens last year and looked overwhelmed without him, Seton Hall brings in lots of talent on paper, but will they translate to real success? Rarely do very young teams start competing right away. SJ's class in 2012 is the perfect example...top 10 class, sub .500 record the first year. DePaul is...DePaul. The Mets of the Big East. And Xavier lost their best player to the draft.
I think best case scenario is that G'Town and Nova are in the top 15, Xavier squeaks in the tourney somehow and SJ is on the bubble.
Worst case: only Nova and G'Town are ranked or make tourney.
Sky is always falling with you, isn't it SJHooper? I'm surprised FS1 hasn't folded yet... The NBE should have signed with ESPN... The Catholic 7 should have never left to form the New Big East. If the sky was falling, why hasn't it hit the ground yet? Why did the Big East and Big Ten agree to the Gavitt Tipoff? Why did the Big East continue to excel at recruiting? Why this if the sky was falling?
But I digress to the OP's topic...
I think Villanova is by far and away the top team in the conference, but by no means should we crown them without a game played. That said, I have high expectations for Nova next year and I hope that they will represent the Big East well come tournament time.
SJHooper wrote:]
There are different kinds of people: blind optimists (everything is always great even when it's not), pessimists (everything is always terrible), and realists (fact oriented and honest). I am in the realist camp. Of course I hope SJU somehow finally puts it together and plays like a well-oiled machine entering the top 25 and making a tourney run. Of course I hope Creighton can show they are not just about McDermott. Of course I hope PC can fill the void of Cotton. Of course I hope losing Semaj won't affect Xavier too badly. Of course I hope Butler somehow finds its magic from the late 00's. Of course I hope Seton Hall's recruits pan out.
There is nothing wrong with being honest. The facts are that the conference lost a ton of good, experienced players including the POY. The facts are that Marquette, G'Town, Butler, SJU greatly disappointed this year. The facts are that SJU almost seems allergic to the NCAA's. The facts are that there is only 1 bonafide ranked top 25 team we can say with any confidence (Nova). Yes the conference did a good job recruiting but SJU seems to be failing in that area lately especially if Briscoe and Diallo don't sign which is likely given the competition.
Bottom line is there are way more question marks than periods. Nova is the name brand top 25 nationally ranked school. After that, roll the dice. So it's insincere to act like everything is going great. It's just wrong. Here's to hoping we have lots of pleasant surprises i.e. big OOC wins like SJU over Duke or Cuse, etc.
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